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375993 24125 Global warming is fairy science 1 PeakMaster Oct 7, 2025 2025-10-07T17:41:11-0400 The 90+ scientists have been proven as grifters. Surf on.
376005 24125 Global warming is fairy science 2 Howeezey Oct 7, 2025 2025-10-07T18:16:47-0400 PeakMaster said: The 90+ scientists have been proven as grifters. Surf on. Click to expand... Say it LOUDER for everyone in the back, and elaborate further. Surf on
376009 24125 Global warming is fairy science 3 TurtleTime Oct 7, 2025 2025-10-07T18:26:47-0400 is that what we are down to, 90 scientists left?
376013 24125 Global warming is fairy science 4 Ricksurfin Oct 7, 2025 2025-10-07T18:39:59-0400 TurtleTime said: is that what we are down to, 90 scientists left? Click to expand... Yes, Donald furloughed all the rest.
376031 24125 Global warming is fairy science 5 XXX Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-07T20:24:42-0400 TurtleTime said: is that what we are down to, 90 scientists left? Click to expand... As surely as the Sun orbits the Earth.
376033 24125 Global warming is fairy science 6 Salinity Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-07T20:36:34-0400 Thanks mods for the ignore function.
376035 24125 Global warming is fairy science 7 Dirk Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-07T20:51:48-0400 If there’s sarcasm here I’m missing it
376051 24125 Global warming is fairy science 8 Howeezey Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-07T22:22:13-0400 Here is the evidence right here! Look with your own eyes. “ Based on peer-reviewed research and scientific assessments, the claim that over 90 scientists have been proven to be "grifters on global warming" is false . The overwhelming consensus among climate scientists is that human activity is the primary cause of global warming.“…… So HA suck it! Global warming isn’t real at all. It’s normal & natural.
376055 24125 Global warming is fairy science 9 C_M Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-07T23:32:53-0400 Salinity said: Thanks mods for the ignore function. Click to expand... Where is it?
376075 24125 Global warming is fairy science 10 Stingray Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T02:08:58-0400 C_M said: Where is it? Click to expand... Image processing. Refresh page to view
376079 24125 Global warming is fairy science 11 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T06:38:59-0400 https://www.ff.org/the-myth-of-the-climate-change-97/
376081 24125 Global warming is fairy science 12 heavymetalshop Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T06:50:50-0400 Image processing. Refresh page to view
376083 24125 Global warming is fairy science 13 Tubr1der Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T06:51:05-0400 PeakMaster said: The 90+ scientists have been proven as grifters. Surf on. Click to expand... That Fox News has rotted your brain. Luckily for the rest of us there are still facts in the world. You'd have to be able to comprehend the scientific method, but obviously this is well beyond your brain capacity. So carry on kook.
376085 24125 Global warming is fairy science 14 _ctrlb Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T07:19:26-0400 First the controversy in the ding repair thread, now this? The heat here is too much to take!
376087 24125 Global warming is fairy science 15 Tubr1der Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T07:28:07-0400 PeakMaster said: https://www.ff.org/the-myth-of-the-climate-change-97/ Click to expand... That's your source? And this folks is why we're living in a real life version of Idiocracy.
376089 24125 Global warming is fairy science 16 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T07:36:45-0400 Tubr1der said: That Fox News has rotted your brain. Luckily for the rest of us there are still facts in the world. You'd have to be able to comprehend the scientific method, but obviously this is well beyond your brain capacity. So carry on kook. Click to expand... https://energynow.com/2023/02/comme...y-the-myth-that-97-of-scientists-agree-about-a-climate-crisis-alex-epstein/?amp
376091 24125 Global warming is fairy science 17 SeniorGrom Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T07:49:17-0400 To the exact dollar, how much will it cost to lower the earth’s temperature one degree? Since we have been separating items for recycling now for decades, how much of this human activity has caused changes in manufacturing? What level of human/animal life can the planet sustain? Practical question I think about. Science is easy, math is hard, politicians are skilled in neither one.
376095 24125 Global warming is fairy science 18 Tubr1der Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T08:09:14-0400 PeakMaster said: https://energynow.com/2023/02/comme...y-the-myth-that-97-of-scientists-agree-about-a-climate-crisis-alex-epstein/?amp Click to expand... Dude, didn't you study bias in highschool? This is a publication generated by and for the oil and gas industry.
376099 24125 Global warming is fairy science 19 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T08:56:30-0400 Tubr1der said: Dude, didn't you study bias in highschool? This is a publication generated by and for the oil and gas industry. Click to expand...
376101 24125 Global warming is fairy science 20 freakybornwings Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T09:02:16-0400 It has been amply demonstrated that not only was ExxonMobil aware by the 1970's of emissions-driven climate change, they actually created what turned out to be HIGHLY ACCURATE forecasts of this: In "Assessing ExxonMobil's Global Warming Projections," researchers from Harvard and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research show for the first time the accuracy of previously unreported forecasts created by company scientists from 1977 through 2003. The Harvard team discovered that Exxon researchers created a series of remarkably reliable models and analyses projecting global warming from carbon dioxide emissions over the coming decades. Specifically, Exxon projected that fossil fuel emissions would lead to 0.20 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade, with a margin of error of 0.04 degrees - a trend that has been proven largely accurate. "This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company's climate projections, the first time we've been able to put a number on what they knew," said Geoffrey Supran, lead author and former research fellow in the History of Science at Harvard. "What we found is that between 1977 and 2003, excellent scientists within Exxon modeled and predicted global warming with, frankly, shocking skill and accuracy only for the company to then spend the next couple of decades denying that very climate science." Source: The Harvard Gazette There is a galaxy of fake websites and "news outlets" and "experts" invented by the petroleum industry to muddy the waters on this, and other vitally important topics in the public interest, and I'd be happy to talk about those, too. But internally, as a company, they have absolutely been aware of this problem for 50 YEARS.
376105 24125 Global warming is fairy science 21 Tubr1der Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T09:31:46-0400 PeakMaster said: Click to expand... PeakMaster said: Click to expand... Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact.
376107 24125 Global warming is fairy science 22 Chaz Wa Da Da Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T09:41:29-0400 Howeezey said: Here is the evidence right here! Look with your own eyes. " Based on peer-reviewed research and scientific assessments, the claim that over 90 scientists have been proven to be "grifters on global warming" is false . The overwhelming consensus among climate scientists is that human activity is the primary cause of global warming."…… So HA suck it! Global warming isn't real at all. It's normal & natural. Click to expand... Here it is in pictures so everyone can understand...... https://coastalreview.org/2025/10/messy-situation-buxton-beach-littered-after-8th-house-falls/
376111 24125 Global warming is fairy science 23 jory Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T10:05:51-0400 i suspect the great erBB migration is now well underway.............
376113 24125 Global warming is fairy science 24 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T10:10:38-0400 Tubr1der said: Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact. Click to expand...
376115 24125 Global warming is fairy science 25 XXX Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T10:13:31-0400 https://coastalreview.org/2025/10/messy-situation-buxton-beach-littered-after-8th-house-falls/ It's hard to see how oceanfront homes can continue to be built, rebuilt or insured. Anyone buying into and spreading the fossil fuel industry propaganda owes it to themselves to take part in a beach cleanup. See how many people out there agree with your conspiracy theories, science denial and anti-intellectualism.
376117 24125 Global warming is fairy science 26 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T10:18:53-0400 XXX said: https://coastalreview.org/2025/10/messy-situation-buxton-beach-littered-after-8th-house-falls/ It's hard to see how oceanfront homes can continue to be built, rebuilt or insured. Anyone buying into and spreading the fossil fuel industry propaganda owes it to themselves to take part in a beach cleanup. See how many people out there agree with your conspiracy theories, science denial and anti-intellectualism. Click to expand... The Jersey Shore wind turbines are not happening https://share.google/hq9O3htaEPZktBOLf
376121 24125 Global warming is fairy science 27 Qustom Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T10:38:03-0400 How 'bout we segue into the topic of how the petroleum industry was the driving force behind making hemp illegal because it offered a clean burning fuel (alcohol) that could power the Model T's of the day and could still be powering modern ICE's if all of the rubber seals in the fuel system weren't made of - you guessed it! - petroleum products which will melt when exposed to alcohol!
376123 24125 Global warming is fairy science 28 SeniorGrom Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T11:01:03-0400 Will the first surfer riding a plank of wood please stand up and be counted.
376125 24125 Global warming is fairy science 29 bendy Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T11:08:38-0400 Amazon Shipping Options: Overnight, 2-day, or FREE via eco-friendly sailboat Greta Thunberg. I ordered an organic cotton t-shirt, so I selected Greta "out of principle." A month, maybe two passed... Ahoy! Land Ho! She arrived. I forgot what I ordered, snatched the package from her hands ripped it open clearly ignoring Greta's arduous journey. I tried on the shirt, but it wasn't right - damn. I clicked Return. With a blank stare and one foot still aboard the vessel she scanned the QR code [beep!] -- slipped the familiar cardboard box under her arm; And away, She sailed...
376139 24125 Global warming is fairy science 30 dropkneestraightair Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T11:35:16-0400 If its one thing i love....... Its surfers discussing politics
376141 24125 Global warming is fairy science 31 Stingray Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T11:48:47-0400 Tubr1der said: That Fox News has rotted your brain. Luckily for the rest of us there are still facts in the world. You'd have to be able to comprehend the scientific method, but obviously this is well beyond your brain capacity. So carry on kook. Click to expand... Everyone's suggesting reason, you have to start by finding common ground, appealing to the fabric of his NJ soul:
376147 24125 Global warming is fairy science 32 Symphonic Groove Theory Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:06:53-0400 One thing I fail to understand is the politicization of this issue. I mean, I get how we got here with the propaganda machine spinning, but like, how do people fail to realize that whether you believe that climate change is caused by humans or not, the climate changes, and excessive warming is going to cause global food shortages and mass migration? If the outcome is the same regardless of the cause, why not try to use our best practices and technologies to mitigate it?
376149 24125 Global warming is fairy science 33 TheEL Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:16:02-0400 jory said: i suspect the great erBB migration is now well underway............. Click to expand... SHOW
376151 24125 Global warming is fairy science 34 Sdoli Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:19:15-0400 Symphonic Groove Theory said: One thing I fail to understand is the politicization of this issue. I mean, I get how we got here with the propaganda machine spinning, but like, how do people fail to realize that whether you believe that climate change is caused by humans or not, the climate changes, and excessive warming is going to cause global food shortages and mass migration? If the outcome is the same regardless of the cause, why not try to use our best practices and technologies to mitigate it? Click to expand... That would be ideal. We would be able to if it wasn't for the greed of fossil fuel leaders and immoral politicians that keeps us divided and fight among each other just like here in this forum.
376153 24125 Global warming is fairy science 35 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:21:10-0400 Tubr1der said: Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact. Click to expand... https://nypost.com/2021/11/12/50-ye...apocalypse-is-nigh?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social
376155 24125 Global warming is fairy science 36 Stingray Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:28:46-0400 Symphonic Groove Theory said: One thing I fail to understand is the politicization of this issue. I mean, I get how we got here with the propaganda machine spinning, but like, how do people fail to realize that whether you believe that climate change is caused by humans or not, the climate changes, and excessive warming is going to cause global food shortages and mass migration? If the outcome is the same regardless of the cause, why not try to use our best practices and technologies to mitigate it? Click to expand... Folks come to their own conclusions from very different backgrounds, life experiences, information resources and personal interests.. you're likely assuming "they" agree the ultimate outcome and consequences are the same as you do for example. He's from NJ… it starts with the Boss. https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog432/node/405
376157 24125 Global warming is fairy science 37 PeakMaster Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:33:20-0400 Stingray said: Folks come to their own conclusions from very different backgrounds, life experiences, information resources and personal interests.. you're likely assuming "they" agree the ultimate outcome and consequences are the same as you do for example. He's from NJ… it starts with the Boss. https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog432/node/405 Click to expand... I firmly believe that Springsteen is a talentless asshole.
376161 24125 Global warming is fairy science 38 Stingray Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T12:50:04-0400 PeakMaster said: I firmly believe that Springsteen is a talentless asshole. Click to expand... "Siri, retire this thread."
376167 24125 Global warming is fairy science 39 033 Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T13:05:34-0400 Tides, sea levels, etc. at my surf breaks are the same as 45 years ago. Anyone else.
376179 24125 Global warming is fairy science 40 Symphonic Groove Theory Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T13:47:11-0400 Stingray said: Folks come to their own conclusions from very different backgrounds, life experiences, information resources and personal interests.. you're likely assuming "they" agree the ultimate outcome and consequences are the same as you do for example. He's from NJ… it starts with the Boss. https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog432/node/405 Click to expand... Very true. I was speaking to the very common narrative of climate change deniers that argue the planet is always warming and cooling, and that humans aren't the driving force. If there were another major ice age, whether or not that was brought on by human behavior, it would behoove you to buy a snowsuit. I know political ideology and logical consistency aren't bedfellows, but I thought I'd try to make a unifying appeal to common sense
376183 24125 Global warming is fairy science 41 SoftScrambledSkeggs Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T13:49:23-0400 I saw a dude smoking crack on the way into work today. That globe was definitely warming. Then he tried to sell me 8'6" Chuck Dent from '82 that apparently was used by Wayne Miyata as a dining room table in his Hermosa apartment once visited by the ghost of Conan Hayes' white dreads.
376189 24125 Global warming is fairy science 42 Howeezey Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:17:15-0400 Yeah
376193 24125 Global warming is fairy science 43 Salty Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:26:28-0400 PeakMaster said: I firmly believe that Springsteen is a talentless asshole. Click to expand... https://www.surfer.com/culture/bruce-springsteens-surfing-roots-revealed-asbury-park-music-festival
376199 24125 Global warming is fairy science 44 C_M Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:38:11-0400 The erBB, on Jamboards.
376201 24125 Global warming is fairy science 45 Stingray Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:42:29-0400 bc said: Tides, sea levels, etc. at my surf breaks are the same as 45 years ago. Anyone else. Click to expand... No, because unfortunately for a lot of folks (or fortunately for you) our planet is not a bathtub. Science (and gravity) is a bitch. https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/9/are...a-levels-rising-the-same-all-over-the-world-as-if-were-filling-a-giant-bathtub/ Stay salty bruddahs.
376203 24125 Global warming is fairy science 46 XXX Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:44:56-0400 bc said: Tides, sea levels, etc. at my surf breaks are the same as 45 years ago. Anyone else. Click to expand... Let's see the data.
376205 24125 Global warming is fairy science 47 SoftScrambledSkeggs Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T14:48:34-0400 DONE. XXX said: Let's see the data. Click to expand...
376215 24125 Global warming is fairy science 48 Sdoli Oct 8, 2025 2025-10-08T15:21:23-0400 People are rooted in their beliefs. Even data will not change someone's mind. I feel it is until they experience extreme weather conditions and their consequences that they will change their mind. But itll be way too late especially for us living here in the coastal us. I always wonder what is the right way to communicate and reach/connect with them that will change someone's mind.
376297 24125 Global warming is fairy science 49 C_M Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-08T21:59:35-0400 It's all so politicized I gave up caring There's a lot of dishonesty on both sides I hear surfers all the time that do not understand basic principles of climate, weather, sand flow, currents, and coastal engineering claiming everything is sea level rise, falling for new reports that sensationalize hurricanes, not understanding the concept of "ever recorded", and making BS claims regarding global warming relating swell production that are just plain retarded. and then there's the contrarian data https://news.clemson.edu/global-warming-is-happening-but-not-statistically-surging-new-study-finds/ What's a layperson who is skeptical by nature make of all this?
376305 24125 Global warming is fairy science 50 SeniorGrom Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-08T22:43:40-0400 How about believing there is climate change, the seas are rising, AND it cannot be reversed. Maybe two things can be true.
376317 24125 Global warming is fairy science 51 C_M Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-08T23:14:02-0400 SeniorGrom said: How about believing there is climate change, the seas are rising, AND it cannot be reversed. Maybe two things can be true. Click to expand... That's three things,
376327 24125 Global warming is fairy science 52 Nalu Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T00:51:29-0400 Fairy science sounds awesome. I'd love to see their version of a lab: beakers of glitter, thermometers made of wands, and equations written in pixie dust. PeakMaster is hands down the prettiest fairy on Jamboards - here, I made you a new profile picture. Image processing. Refresh page to view
376331 24125 Global warming is fairy science 53 Planktom Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T04:53:54-0400 dropkneestraightair said: If its one thing i love....... Its surfers discussing politics Click to expand... The irony is the 'politics' of human effects on global warming is a mere babe in arms compared to the science of the same issue, which dates back to the 1800s. The problem we have (all of us) is the politicisation of science in general, which in turn, is really just a manifestation of those in power (hint - not the politicians)
376337 24125 Global warming is fairy science 54 PeakMaster Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T06:30:41-0400 Salty said: https://www.surfer.com/culture/bruce-springsteens-surfing-roots-revealed-asbury-park-music-festival Click to expand... Carl "Tinker" West died recently. There was a paddle out for him September 21. It was well attended in Sandy Hook. Springsteen wasn't there. Tinker was his first manager. Fuck Springsteen.
376341 24125 Global warming is fairy science 55 PeakMaster Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T06:39:16-0400 Nalu said: Fairy science sounds awesome. I'd love to see their version of a lab: beakers of glitter, thermometers made of wands, and equations written in pixie dust. PeakMaster is hands down the prettiest fairy on Jamboards - here, I made you a new profile picture. View attachment 98169 Click to expand... The hat and uniform on the recruit are not accurate. No stripe on the pants. The instructor's pant stripe is not depicted accurately as well. You must spend a lot of time jerking off...that much is certain.
376355 24125 Global warming is fairy science 56 shadydave Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T09:49:09-0400 Planktom said: The irony is the 'politics' of human effects on global warming is a mere babe in arms compared to the science of the same issue, which dates back to the 1800s. The problem we have (all of us) is the politicisation of science in general, which in turn, is really just a manifestation of those in power (hint - not the politicians) Click to expand... My opinion on this is the science (record keeping) that started in the 1800's is a "mere babe" compared to the millions of years this beautiful earth has existed. Climate change is real and has been happening forever, our lifetime is nothing but a blip on the screen as far as Mother Earth is concerned.
376357 24125 Global warming is fairy science 57 C_M Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T10:03:37-0400 When I was a kid in the 80s I remember being terrified by this episode of "In Search Of" where interviewed climate experts claimed the next Ice Age was upon us and we were all going to end up frozen to death marooned in our cars during a blizzard. Check out the minute long intro, narrated by Leonard Nimoy. It's 10/10 terrifying. For a kid at least. It wasn't 10 years later I was being told we were all going to burn up. Professor Gifford, who in the above episode claimed the earth had been cooling and the next Ice Age had already begun, now claims the opposite: https://www.colorado.edu/instaar/gifford-h-miller Perhaps both are true...I used to think the idea of needing more blankets AND less blankets at the same time was just a joke.
376369 24125 Global warming is fairy science 58 Planktom Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T10:53:24-0400 shadydave said: My opinion on this is the science (record keeping) that started in the 1800's is a "mere babe" compared to the millions of years this beautiful earth has existed. Climate change is real and has been happening forever, our lifetime is nothing but a blip on the screen as far as Mother Earth is concerned. Click to expand... Stating the obvious But to the point - the link between human activity and the effects on global warming was first documented by scientists in the 1800s, away from any significant influence or indeed political pressure. Just for science's sake, when scientists still managed the field of science. This is important to understand. The thing that is up for debate, is how significant human activity is in relation to global warming. From what I can ascertain, this is still pretty hard to define. It's also increasingly hard to sift through the quagmire of information that's wrapped up as 'evidence'. This goes both ways, I have no horse in this race.
376387 24125 Global warming is fairy science 59 C_M Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T11:47:02-0400 Planktom said: The thing that is up for debate, is how significant human activity is in relation to global warming. From what I can ascertain, this is still pretty hard to define. It's also increasingly hard to sift through the quagmire of information that's wrapped up as 'evidence'. This goes both ways, I have no horse in this race. Click to expand... Pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.
376419 24125 Global warming is fairy science 60 shadydave Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T13:35:57-0400 Planktom said: Stating the obvious But to the point - the link between human activity and the effects on global warming was first documented by scientists in the 1800s, away from any significant influence or indeed political pressure. Just for science's sake, when scientists still managed the field of science. This is important to understand. The thing that is up for debate, is how significant human activity is in relation to global warming. From what I can ascertain, this is still pretty hard to define. It's also increasingly hard to sift through the quagmire of information that's wrapped up as 'evidence'. This goes both ways, I have no horse in this race. Click to expand... I believe the point I was attempting to make is we have reliable daily records dating back to the late 1800's (150 yrs +/-). Now can we reliably go back thousands of years and look at a 150 yr window and accurately tell what daily temps were, what ocean temps were, what type and frequency of extreme weather conditions were experienced? These are things I wonder about. I doubting that is possible. I imagine there were lots of extreme climate changes in small windows of time.
376421 24125 Global warming is fairy science 61 Sdoli Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T13:40:45-0400 Honestly, if the governments were just aligning with the scientific community, we wouldn’t have such a long thread and stop fighting whether climate change is real or not. If the governments had the clear message that the climate change is a threat to the livelihood of our children and grandchildren, we would just be aligned. That split we’re experiencing shows the doing greed and the interest of the fossil fuel industry.
376425 24125 Global warming is fairy science 62 C_M Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T14:07:20-0400 Sdoli said: Honestly, if the governments were just aligning with the scientific community, we wouldn't have such a long thread and stop fighting whether climate change is real or not. If the governments had the clear message that the climate change is a threat to the livelihood of our children and grandchildren, we would just be aligned. That split we're experiencing shows the doing greed and the interest of the fossil fuel industry. Click to expand... I don't find governments to be truthful. Do you? Politicians tend to be dishonest and manipulate populations by using fear. And the politicians are often doing the bidding of other powerful interests or agenda pushers. Over the past few years I've seen multiple instances of politicians claiming various weather events and shoreline changes are the result of climate change - only for scientists who believe in climate change to push back and say the politician is incorrect. And then there's the big lies, like the claims sea level rise and climate change are driving erosion on Florida's east coast. If you surf and you've ever seen images of the dozens of inlets along the shoreline (pre-manmade alteration) you know if it weren't for the Army Corps of Engineers altering those inlets for boat traffic there would be no coastal erosion issue. In fact, the same goes for pretty much all sandy coastlines with similar issues. Disruption of the natural flow of sand leads to coastal erosion on long sandy beaches. Pretty much always.
376427 24125 Global warming is fairy science 63 Planktom Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T14:15:43-0400 shadydave said: I believe the point I was attempting to make is we have reliable daily records dating back to the late 1800's (150 yrs +/-). Now can we reliably go back thousands of years and look at a 150 yr window and accurately tell what daily temps were, what ocean temps were, what type and frequency of extreme weather conditions were experienced? These are things I wonder about. I doubting that is possible. I imagine there were lots of extreme climate changes in small windows of time. Click to expand... Ak ok, I see. My point was that it's not just daily records of fluctuations that started in the 1800s, it's the specific link between human behaviour and climate change that was discovered. The records of general fluctuations go back further (and can be modelled even further back, as you rightly point out)
376471 24125 Global warming is fairy science 64 PeakMaster Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T18:54:46-0400 Sdoli said: Honestly, if the governments were just aligning with the scientific community, we wouldn't have such a long thread and stop fighting whether climate change is real or not. If the governments had the clear message that the climate change is a threat to the livelihood of our children and grandchildren, we would just be aligned. That split we're experiencing shows the doing greed and the interest of the fossil fuel industry. Click to expand... WTF are you even talking about?
376475 24125 Global warming is fairy science 65 Surfertom Oct 9, 2025 2025-10-09T19:16:10-0400 PeakMaster said: The hat and uniform on the recruit are not accurate. No stripe on the pants. The instructor's pant stripe is not depicted accurately as well. You must spend a lot of time jerking off...that much is certain. Click to expand... But, is the tutu the right color? ST
376491 24125 Global warming is fairy science 66 Howeezey Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-09T20:56:15-0400 I couldn’t be more bored with this thread
376499 24125 Global warming is fairy science 67 Sdoli Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-09T21:31:15-0400 PeakMaster said: WTF are you even talking about? Click to expand... Somehow I am not surprised you don't get it.
376501 24125 Global warming is fairy science 68 Sdoli Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-09T21:35:36-0400 C_M said: I don't find governments to be truthful. Do you? Politicians tend to be dishonest and manipulate populations by using fear. And the politicians are often doing the bidding of other powerful interests or agenda pushers. Over the past few years I've seen multiple instances of politicians claiming various weather events and shoreline changes are the result of climate change - only for scientists who believe in climate change to push back and say the politician is incorrect. And then there's the big lies, like the claims sea level rise and climate change are driving erosion on Florida's east coast. If you surf and you've ever seen images of the dozens of inlets along the shoreline (pre-manmade alteration) you know if it weren't for the Army Corps of Engineers altering those inlets for boat traffic there would be no coastal erosion issue. In fact, the same goes for pretty much all sandy coastlines with similar issues. Disruption of the natural flow of sand leads to coastal erosion on long sandy beaches. Pretty much always. Click to expand... I don't trust politicians either. It's been so obvious how lobbies (gun, aipac, pharma, military-industrial complex…) are buying votes instead of politicians representing us. There are a few that still have moral integrity but not many left.
376551 24125 Global warming is fairy science 69 OX 45 Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T03:44:26-0400 the title of the thread is not accurate to begin with. Globe…lmao. Round earthers!?!
376571 24125 Global warming is fairy science 70 Planktom Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T10:04:59-0400 Yea, what a bunch of dupes!
376573 24125 Global warming is fairy science 71 Driftwood Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T10:19:45-0400 SeniorGrom said: Will the first surfer riding a plank of wood please stand up and be counted. Click to expand... I rode mine two weeks ago, does that count? Staying stoked
376595 24125 Global warming is fairy science 72 Planktom Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T12:01:45-0400 https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/whataboutism
376603 24125 Global warming is fairy science 73 Turdlurker Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T12:52:05-0400 I helped work on a research project with the Geology Department at University of Oregon where some of the research students traveled to Antarctica to collect ice cores (Vostok) which date back roughly 400,000 years BP. We analyzed each season of ice layering using non-radiogenic isotope differentiation in light vs heavy oxygen isotopes (16 vs. 18) as a proxy for to track changes in temperature and sea level. There are tiny bubbles in the ice cores that contain records of the atmosphere at the time. Using a laser, we volatilize the gasses in the bubbles in the cores which releases charged ions which can be categorized by their mass and charge to determine the ratio of isotope differentiation. Many universities have studied these cores. There's a cool mini workshop from University of Michigan publicly available that is a good intro to this type of analysis for folks who aren't in the STEM fields and want to learn a little about this type of research. Just google "Analysis of Vostok Ice Core".
376605 24125 Global warming is fairy science 74 Dirk Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T13:01:05-0400 The same people telling you “climate change isn’t real” are the same ones that would happily pollute the rivers oceans and air if there weren’t regulations. These groups actively try to dismantle those environmental protections that benefit every single person in the country. It truly baffles me that people can don’t see how surfing and basic environmental protections are hand and hand. You want your local lineup to look like those photos of trash clogged rivers and breaks? Turn off Fox News, listen to people who may know more than you (that’s ok), and stop delaying progress. Science is not your enemy it’s your friend. It is by farthe best way we have to figuring shit out
376607 24125 Global warming is fairy science 75 C_M Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T13:46:10-0400 Dirk said: The same people telling you "climate change isn't real" are the same ones that would happily pollute the rivers oceans and air if there weren't regulations. These groups actively try to dismantle those environmental protections that benefit every single person in the country. It truly baffles me that people can don't see how surfing and basic environmental protections are hand and hand. You want your local lineup to look like those photos of trash clogged rivers and breaks? Turn off Fox News, listen to people who may know more than you (that's ok), and stop delaying progress. Science is not your enemy it's your friend. It is by farthe best way we have to figuring shit out Click to expand... Thank you for this constructive contribution. You're going to be swaying lots of hearts and minds with fallacious arguments.
376617 24125 Global warming is fairy science 76 Dirk Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T14:40:17-0400 C_M said: Thank you for this constructive contribution. You're going to be swaying lots of hearts and minds with fallacious arguments. Click to expand... Womp womp
376673 24125 Global warming is fairy science 77 XXX Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T17:44:33-0400 Driftwood said: I rode mine two weeks ago, does that count? Staying stoked Click to expand... Good on ya'
376725 24125 Global warming is fairy science 78 Chaz Wa Da Da Oct 10, 2025 2025-10-10T19:54:46-0400 SeniorGrom said: To the exact dollar, how much will it cost to lower the earth's temperature one degree? Since we have been separating items for recycling now for decades, how much of this human activity has caused changes in manufacturing? What level of human/animal life can the planet sustain? Practical question I think about. Science is easy, math is hard, politicians are skilled in neither one. Click to expand... Hoe does this work brah, do we just pick one??
376729 24125 Global warming is fairy science 79 Chaz Wa Da Da Oct 11, 2025 2025-10-10T20:08:27-0400 Tubr1der said: Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact. Click to expand... Tubr1der said: Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact. Click to expand... Tubr1der said: Maybe try again buddy…This guy was Rush Limbaugh's lackey, is not a scientist, has zero credentials, and is only famous for spreading lies and misinformation about scientifically proven climate change issues. The facts are out there but you refuse to accept them. Why is that? It's because your Republican leaders are experts at exploiting the simple minded, the willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid to fulfill their bought and paid for big oil agenda. This is also a Googlable fact. Click to expand...
376967 24125 Global warming is fairy science 80 033 Oct 12, 2025 2025-10-12T13:21:50-0400 I loved when "science" cleared out the lineup for six months in 2020!
377005 24125 Global warming is fairy science 81 C_M Oct 12, 2025 2025-10-12T17:50:14-0400 bc said: I loved when "science" cleared out the lineup for six months in 2020! Click to expand... Kim Prather, a leading atmospheric chemist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, wants to yell out her window at every surfer, runner, and biker she spots along the San Diego coast. "I wouldn't go in the water if you paid me $1 million right now," she said. The beach, in her estimation, is one of the most dangerous places to be these days, as the novel coronavirus marches silently across California. Many beachgoers know they can suffer skin rashes , stomach illness and serious ear and respiratory infections if they go into the water within three days of a heavy rain, because of bacteria and pathogens washing off roads and into the ocean. Raw or poorly treated sewage entering the ocean also poses major health risks. Prather fears that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could enter coastal waters in similar ways and transfer back into the air along the coast. In her research, Prather has found that the ocean churns up all kinds of particulate and microscopic pathogens, and every time the ocean sneezes with a big wave or two, it sprays these particles into the air. She believes that this new coronavirus is light enough to float through the air much farther than we think. The six-feet physical distancing rule, she said, doesn't apply at the beach, where coastal winds can get quite strong and send viral particles soaring. "It's not going to kill you if you miss a few surfing sessions, but it could if you go out there and get in the wrong air," she said. "You can't see the virus, you can't smell it ... It's a real silent killer right now." Prather, who directs the Center for Aerosol Impacts on Chemistry of the Environment, a large research hub at Scripps backed by $40 million from the National Science Foundation, sent her researchers and students home long before California officials issued stay-at-home orders. She s…
377009 24125 Global warming is fairy science 82 Dirk Oct 12, 2025 2025-10-12T18:03:23-0400 C_M said: Kim Prather, a leading atmospheric chemist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, wants to yell out her window at every surfer, runner, and biker she spots along the San Diego coast. "I wouldn't go in the water if you paid me $1 million right now," she said. The beach, in her estimation, is one of the most dangerous places to be these days, as the novel coronavirus marches silently across California. Many beachgoers know they can suffer skin rashes , stomach illness and serious ear and respiratory infections if they go into the water within three days of a heavy rain, because of bacteria and pathogens washing off roads and into the ocean. Raw or poorly treated sewage entering the ocean also poses major health risks. Prather fears that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could enter coastal waters in similar ways and transfer back into the air along the coast. In her research, Prather has found that the ocean churns up all kinds of particulate and microscopic pathogens, and every time the ocean sneezes with a big wave or two, it sprays these particles into the air. She believes that this new coronavirus is light enough to float through the air much farther than we think. The six-feet physical distancing rule, she said, doesn't apply at the beach, where coastal winds can get quite strong and send viral particles soaring. "It's not going to kill you if you miss a few surfing sessions, but it could if you go out there and get in the wrong air," she said. "You can't see the virus, you can't smell it ... It's a real silent killer right now." Prather, who directs the Center for Aerosol Impacts on Chemistry of the Environment, a large research hub at Scripps backed by $40 million from the National Science Foundation, sent her researchers and students home long before California officials issued stay-at-home orders. She suspected this virus was contagious by air, and knew from past studies that coronaviruses can be excreted in feca…
377017 24125 Global warming is fairy science 83 C_M Oct 12, 2025 2025-10-12T19:42:42-0400 Dirk said: People love to act like everything about Covid was known. Hindsight is 20-20 and a publish date of April 2 2020 is like a week and a half after everything shutdown. You air in the side of caution when you don't know what something is capable of and in this case luckily she was wrong and overly cautious Click to expand... Everything about COVID was known, including that it was airborne and not droplet, which is why Dr. Fauci initially scoffed at the idea of masks. Believing otherwise is naive. In regards to the article featuring Ms. Prather, I can remember my pulmonology associates discussing how she was irresponsibly fear mongering. BUT to her credit she did get her name in the paper with terrifying fake "science" and helped keep us off the beaches. And for that, we thank her.
380095 24125 Global warming is fairy science 84 XXX Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T10:13:01-0400 170 mph winds, 13' storm surge in Jamaica due to Hurricane Melissa. Unless it's more fake news and fairy science. Maybe they're staging it in the same studio where they faked the moon landing? Image processing. Refresh page to view
380119 24125 Global warming is fairy science 85 PeakMaster Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T11:54:03-0400 XXX said: 170 mph winds, 13' storm surge in Jamaica due to Hurricane Melissa. Unless it's more fake news and fairy science. Maybe they're staging it in the same studio where they faked the moon landing? View attachment 99727 Click to expand... A hurricane in the Caribbean is not indicatives of any type of so-called climate change. It's hurricane season...just like it has been for centuries.
380135 24125 Global warming is fairy science 86 C_M Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T12:54:31-0400 PeakMaster said: A hurricane in the Caribbean is not indicatives of any type of so-called climate change. It's hurricane season...just like it has been for centuries. Click to expand... When the media started sensationalizing hurricane season I wanted to research for myself. What I found out was even semi-accurate hurricane data does not really exist pre-1958. and the data doesn't really start to get exceptionally accurate until the 1990s. So... Essentially, we really don't have a clue about the frequency or reliable numbers regarding the intensity of hurricane activity until the latter half of the 20th century (this despite the NOAA recognizing hurricane data back to 1861, which is quite absurd). There is documentation of landfalls on the East Coast after white people began to inhabit the area but those are anecdotal accounts that are semi-reliable at best. In the Columbian era of discovery there are accounts made by sailors about hurricanes that never struck land but I would likely classify those as "probably completely unreliable."lol. That said, from soil specimens scientists think they have an idea of hurricane patterns over large stretches of time via sediment cores. Without going into detail, I would imagine some of these cores are more reliable than others.These show some incredibly long periods of inactivity during the Atlantic hurricane season as well as blips with spikes of activity.
380171 24125 Global warming is fairy science 87 XXX Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T15:24:48-0400 C_M said: When the media started sensationalizing hurricane season I wanted to research for myself. What I found out was even semi-accurate hurricane data does not really exist pre-1958. and the data doesn't really start to get exceptionally accurate until the 1990s. So... Essentially, we really don't have a clue about the frequency or reliable numbers regarding the intensity of hurricane activity until the latter half of the 20th century (this despite the NOAA recognizing hurricane data back to 1861, which is quite absurd). Click to expand... Not a clue? Excess heat is stored by the ocean. "As the concentration of gases like carbon dioxide and methane in Earth's atmosphere continues to increase , predominantly as a result of human activities, so does the amount of solar energy (or heat) trapped by the Earth's climate system. The global ocean absorbs up to 91% of the excess solar energy that cannot be reflected back into space." Media sensationalizing? Image processing. Refresh page to view
380177 24125 Global warming is fairy science 88 PeakMaster Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T15:40:31-0400 XXX said: Not a clue? Excess heat is stored by the ocean. As the concentration of gases like carbon dioxide and methane in Earth's atmosphere continues to increase , predominantly as a result of human activities, so does the amount of solar energy (or heat) trapped by the Earth's climate system. The global ocean absorbs up to 91% of the excess solar energy that cannot be reflected back into space. Click to expand... Bullshit
380181 24125 Global warming is fairy science 89 XXX Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T15:46:49-0400 "Bullshit"... Contributes to greenhouse gasses but so does heifers excrement.
380223 24125 Global warming is fairy science 90 C_M Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T17:53:25-0400 XXX said: Not a clue? Excess heat is stored by the ocean. As the concentration of gases like carbon dioxide and methane in Earth's atmosphere continues to increase , predominantly as a result of human activities, so does the amount of solar energy (or heat) trapped by the Earth's climate system. The global ocean absorbs up to 91% of the excess solar energy that cannot be reflected back into space. Click to expand... This has nothing to do with what I posted in regards to the recent sensationalization of hurricane season where factual inaccuracies are repeated on TV adnauseum. And that accurate storm records aren't even 100 years old. Even AGW promoting climate scientists have come out and said a lot of the stuff you hear in regards to hurricanes/climate change on the TV is just bullshit.
380225 24125 Global warming is fairy science 91 C_M Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T17:57:44-0400 XXX said: "Bullshit"... Contributes to greenhouse gasses but so does heifers excrement. Click to expand... What would you suggest?
380235 24125 Global warming is fairy science 92 sightpoint Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T18:11:34-0400 C_M said: What would you suggest? Click to expand... Either you look a lot like him, or that's Terry Richardson in your avatar pic. Yuck.
380239 24125 Global warming is fairy science 93 C_M Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T18:24:46-0400 sightpoint said: Either you look a lot like him, or that's Terry Richardson in your avatar pic. Yuck. Click to expand... A personal insult? What did I ever do to you? I don't even know you.
380253 24125 Global warming is fairy science 94 sightpoint Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T19:07:16-0400 C_M said: A personal insult? What did I ever do to you? I don't even know you. Click to expand... No, not personal. I just think he's gross.
380255 24125 Global warming is fairy science 95 XXX Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T19:13:54-0400 " What would you suggest"? Serious question? You do what you can when you can and encourage others to do likewise. Avoid obscenity and derail conversations headed down that bunny trail. Recognize that the folks who work at the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration have made a serious study of the topic and might know more than you. Old sailor stories and soil samples are great, good work, but they have little actionable bearing on a conversation about climate disruption and how it affects weather, including 'sensational' events like hurricanes.
380259 24125 Global warming is fairy science 96 SeniorGrom Oct 28, 2025 2025-10-28T19:34:59-0400 Bill Gates has now shifted priorities.
380291 24125 Global warming is fairy science 97 C_M Oct 29, 2025 2025-10-28T22:46:02-0400 XXX said: " What would you suggest"? Serious question? You do what you can when you can and encourage others to do likewise. Avoid obscenity and derail conversations headed down that bunny trail. Recognize that the folks who work at the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration have made a serious study of the topic and might know more than you. Old sailor stories and soil samples are great, good work, but they have little actionable bearing on a conversation about climate disruption and how it affects weather, including 'sensational' events like hurricanes. Click to expand... Yes, serious question. IMO, agricultural civilization is the very problem and there's simply no getting away from it without radical revolution. If you disagree, you might as well resign yourself to understanding places like China and India will never stop shitting all over the planet and that attempts to reverse AGW, if it indeed exists, are simply futile. I would suggest giving Theodore Kaczinski's Industrial Society and its Future a read, he was quite on the money. https://a.co/d/9FVEsQK Then maybe some John Zerzan for more in depth reading: https://www.amazon.com/stores/autho...571d3e5-4543-4a94-9712-b0bf46fbba93&ccs_id=3dccb88b-b682-474c-8770-a2c1a57d5f04 Somehow every time I go for a surf (usually 4 days a week) the lot is full of AGW believing environmentally conscious surfers driving gas guzzling trucks, vans, SUVs, and Sprinters riding surfboards glassed with polyester resin...if we're being honest 90% have zero reason to be driving these carbon-blasting vehicles. My Honda Fit and Prius work just fine for the purpose of getting boards to the beach and I'm probably surfing more than the average surfer. I'm guessing most of these cats are all talk and deep in their heart they think the claims made by climate scientists are just fear-mongering.
380299 24125 Global warming is fairy science 98 C_M Oct 29, 2025 2025-10-28T22:58:02-0400 SeniorGrom said: Bill Gates has now shifted priorities. Click to expand... Yeah, he now says "humans are resilient" and climate change isn't going to wipe out the planet so let's focus on other stuff. Shouldn't be a surprise. People flying around the world in private jets while telling everyone the world is about to end due to carbon emissions...I mean, didn't that give anyone pause? The ultimate graveyard whistlers lol.
380303 24125 Global warming is fairy science 99 XXX Oct 29, 2025 2025-10-28T23:33:39-0400 C_M said: Yes, serious question. IMO, agricultural civilization is the very problem and there's simply no getting away from it without radical revolution. If you disagree, you might as well resign yourself to understanding places like China and India will never stop shitting all over the planet and that attempts to reverse AGW, if it indeed exists, are simply futile. I would suggest giving Theodore Kaczinski's Industrial Society and its Future a read, he was quite on the money. https://a.co/d/9FVEsQK Then maybe some John Zerzan for more in depth reading: https://www.amazon.com/stores/autho...571d3e5-4543-4a94-9712-b0bf46fbba93&ccs_id=3dccb88b-b682-474c-8770-a2c1a57d5f04 Somehow every time I go for a surf (usually 4 days a week) the lot is full of AGW believing environmentally conscious surfers driving gas guzzling trucks, vans, SUVs, and Sprinters riding surfboards glassed with polyester resin...if we're being honest 90% have zero reason to be driving these carbon-blasting vehicles. My Honda Fit and Prius work just fine for the purpose of getting boards to the beach and I'm probably surfing more than the average surfer. I'm guessing most of these cats are all talk and deep in their heart they think the claims made by climate scientists are just fear-mongering. Click to expand... Blaming India and China without acknowledging the previous half century (plus) of degradation while promoting multi-billionaire Bezo's Amazon? OK, I've got it, carry on, next topic: https://www. amazon .com › shop › used surfboard for sale Used Surfboard For Sale - Deals On Used Surfboard For Sale Get Deals and Low Prices On Used Surfboard For Sale At Amazon . Enjoy Great Deals and Discounts On an Array Of Products From Various Brands.
380309 24125 Global warming is fairy science 100 C_M Oct 29, 2025 2025-10-29T00:10:05-0400 XXX said: Blaming India and China without acknowledging the previous half century (plus) of degradation while promoting multi-billionaire Bezo's Amazon? OK, I've got it, carry on, next topic. Click to expand... I didn't blame China and India - I simply said they will never do anything meaningful to reign in on pollution as they must continue to develop their economies, all the while the West is busy removing lanes of traffic in major thoroughfares to place bike lanes, allowing eBikes to run amok because they fit with green initiatives, banning the building of gas stations, banning gas stoves, etc etc My linking to books is not promoting Amazon - you can buy them wherever you want - they are simply a retailer featuring a summary and comprehensive collection of authors' work.

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