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| 36113 | 430 | Some stuff I have been working on. | 85 | SuperKool | Feb 13, 2012 | 2012-02-13T03:52:51-0500 | DownSouthSlidah wrote: The US was originally founded as a Confederation, then re-founded as a loosely-organized Federation of independent States. The concept of a strong central government in Washington, controlling the individual states, was anathema to the framers of the Constitution. This conflict of ideas about how the country should be ran was one of the main causes of the civil war. Slavery was an important issue to be sure; but contrary to modern teaching it wasn't anything like the primary cause of the US civil war (even though history books were quickly re-written to back that claim). After the war's end, the North took steps to ensure that the South would never be able to regain it's former economic strength. The South today is still poorer and generally less-educated, with inferior transportation systems and less well-developed industries - in spite of holding many more natural resources, usable deep-sea ports, and arable farm land. The victor also sent envoys to Russia, France, England, and Spain (all of which were set to normalize diplomatic relations with the South) to make sure they would not recognize the South as a separate nation. The North also used their much-enlarged army to wage a series of genocidal wars against the native American (Indians of the Western continent); conquer the natives of Alaska, Cuba, Florida, Hawaii, the Philippines, and Puerto Rico; and invade both Canada and Mexico. By objective standards, the Northern states were devoted to warlike conquest and a strong central government. To many Southerners, the Confederate battle flag doesn't represent racism or treason - racism existed in the North, and minorities were economically and socially repressed there, as well as being held in "indentured servitude". In an odd way, many Southerners see the Stars-and-Bars as representing adherence to the original principles of limited central government for which their fathers and grandfathers fought against the British. Click to expand... Good stuff DSS, all true. I know all that I just don't see how it's still relevant today, do they still want independence (good riddance), or just states rights (depends on what they wanna use em for)? Either way racism didn't die with the civil war, many southern states used their remaining state rights to oppress african americans through the 1960s and arguably still today. Of course it means different things to different people, but overall it seems more bad than good to me and let's not pretend racism is dead anywhere, but especially not down South. Not saying everyone down there is a racist *******, just a higher proportion than any other region by far (unless Idaho can be considered a region?). I'm not ragging on Austin for making the board, twas very well executed. |