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| 215755 | 10983 | Have boards got even more expensive in the past couple months? | 30 | jory | Aug 5, 2021 | 2021-08-05T08:53:39-0400 | InI said: That's fair, as this is a hot topic and it's changing the direction on this thread. So this is the last I will respond on this topic. This is by no means an insult towards their shaping ability or knowledge. There is nothing wrong with a CNC'ed board. Neither is more moral or immoral. I understand both sides. To handshape everything you would never have enough time to actually surf as a high caliber shaper. Which is why they started in the first place. I, aswell and the majority of the population, couldn't tell the difference. I think it's a matter of knowing what your buying, which isn't crazy to ask. I can also see how he can come across as trying to express he is on some moral high ground. I don't claim to have special knowledge, I don't know him at all. Just sparked up a conversation with him and that's were it went. I'm sure anyone could ask him and get the exact answers I did. He expresses this concern to the public. I also question the validity of his claims of certain brands. Click to expand... To be honest, I'm sorta surprised that anyone here is surprised that's how things work by now?! Any of the brands that do big enough numbers to have a global presence are doing things with cnc. It's the only way for a shaper to do the numbers without killing their body and enthusiasm. People love bings on here but Matt sure as hell isnt shaping the boards for sale in Cornwall by hand. I don't really think many shapers are trying to conceal it either, they just don't differentiate between a full hand shape and a cnc pre cut. Tyler Hatzikian does and is priced accordingly. Mccallum moved away from volume and bumped his prices to avoid doing it. Many shapers of quality now will design on the cnc then tweak by hand anyway even for a full custom. I don't think that makes the board any less custom. I'd actually rather that than buy a "name" board that's ghost shaped by hand by someone completely different - which is what used to happen with many big names off the rack boards. As a consumer, I'd rather have the chance to buy a cnc/ hand finished board from a "name" shaper than have him stick to totally hand shapes and be either prohibitively busy or expensive to get a board. CNC also means that if you are buying a particular model then it's going to be faithful to what you think you are buying. I have experience of a "name" shaper delivering something totally different (& sh*t) from what I ordered because he was out of his head on acid / didn't give a s*t. I'd have rather had a cnc machine involved on that board! Final back on topic note, US board and gas prices are nearly up to what we have been paying in the UK for years. Gas has been over 6 bucks a gallon for at least a decade! |