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| 287297 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 1 | hullogfish | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T11:40:59-0400 | Involvement type outline and the fin looks similar to a Peto flex but with more base. |
| 287301 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 2 | jory | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T12:07:39-0400 | I think with Devon and WR involved it has to be a good board. I really like the look of it, its right alng the lines of the logs that have been inspiring me lately Jury is still out on CI glassing generally though. The euro ones arent often that good and likely to be equivalent of 2000 bucks over here. |
| 287305 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 3 | this_strange_wave | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T12:29:53-0400 | I love Devon, and Wayne is an absolute legend, obviously, but I’m skeptical, particularly at the price point it’s being offered at. For that kind of money, you could easily support a hand shaper or snag a board that’s been hand shaped to some extent. For some reason, I’m just put off by the idea of churning out mass produced “logs.” I’m sure it’s a well-designed board and will satisfy plenty of people but I can’t help but feel a bit “eh.” |
| 287306 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 4 | jory | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T12:37:57-0400 | this_strange_wave said: I love Devon, and Wayne is an absolute legend, obviously, but I'm skeptical, particularly at the price point it's being offered at. For that kind of money, you could easily support a hand shaper or snag a board that's been hand shaped to some extent. For some reason, I'm just put off by the idea of churning out mass produced "logs." I'm sure it's a well-designed board and will satisfy plenty of people but I can't help but feel a bit "eh." Click to expand... That's kind of how i feel. I'd love to try one, sure i'd like it but it doesnt feel worth the "import premium" in the same way a thomas would. Plus my current UK shaped log is almost certainly quite similar and i cant fault that,. I like to think it represents a good option as something i could rent on a trip somewhere... |
| 287308 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 5 | RobG814 | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T12:45:03-0400 | this_strange_wave said: I love Devon, and Wayne is an absolute legend, obviously, but I'm skeptical, particularly at the price point it's being offered at. For that kind of money, you could easily support a hand shaper or snag a board that's been hand shaped to some extent. For some reason, I'm just put off by the idea of churning out mass produced "logs." I'm sure it's a well-designed board and will satisfy plenty of people but I can't help but feel a bit "eh." Click to expand... Nailed it |
| 287313 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 6 | hardyw | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T13:33:23-0400 | If I'm going to get a pop out log I would prefer a thunderbolt CJ Nelson apex or parallax, cheaper and more durable than CI |
| 287319 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 7 | backtail | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T14:32:05-0400 | Judethedude said: So i ordered a model D from wayne back in April, thinking it was a sick colab with devon and that an "internet famous" surfer was helping promote a legend like wayne. Come to find out its gonna be a stock model for CI, i'm alittle bummed. i get that mine is fully customized to me and my local break, with wayne hand shaping it and my choice of glasser/ glassing schedule. But i'm a tiny bit salty that now every ci fan boy is gonna have a similar model. Click to expand... lol, Devon fanboy bummed on CI fanboy. just giving ya a hard time. |
| 287324 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 8 | fluidworks | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T15:13:27-0400 | Judethedude said: So i ordered a model D from wayne back in April, thinking it was a sick colab with devon and that an "internet famous" surfer was helping promote a legend like wayne. Come to find out its gonna be a stock model for CI, i'm alittle bummed. i get that mine is fully customized to me and my local break, with wayne hand shaping it and my choice of glasser/ glassing schedule. But i'm a tiny bit salty that now every ci fan boy is gonna have a similar model. Click to expand... I think you have this backwards. You have a rad hand shaped board custom to you that is unlike anyone else's in the world. And you're salty of machine made boards that are glassed with tissue paper? That said, any idea how much more one from Wayne would cost? The CI is around $1700 with tint. Seems like a no brainer to wait and get one from WR at that price. |
| 287338 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 9 | West81 | Jul 19, 2023 | 2023-07-19T16:08:52-0400 | I totally thought you were joking That board looks to ride super smooth. I did not see any hangups in that video. Its fast too I am sure it will be available in Thunderbolt eventually. On the Japanese site there are a bunch of boards available from CI that you don't get to see here |
| 287385 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 10 | Proper_Mode | Jul 20, 2023 | 2023-07-20T00:29:49-0400 | just why. oh yeah... sales. |
| 287417 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 11 | Jc Nelson | Jul 20, 2023 | 2023-07-20T09:39:16-0400 | this_strange_wave said: For some reason, I'm just put off by the idea of churning out mass produced "logs." Click to expand... have to laugh. read this and thought of phil becker. how about terry martin. industrial machine cut bad. human machine cut good ask malcolm campbell about why he uses machine cuts or pat rawson or... nevermind cj thunderbolt good, ci bad |
| 287443 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 12 | Salty | Jul 20, 2023 | 2023-07-20T14:33:08-0400 | For those concerned about the durability of the board, I DM'ed Devon and this was his response: |
| 287444 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 13 | Yosh | Jul 20, 2023 | 2023-07-20T14:52:12-0400 | Salty said: For those concerned about the durability of the board, I DM'ed Devon and this was his response: Click to expand... is 6/6+6 common for logs? Are they durable if foam is heavier than Blue weight with said schedule? Guessing they're not s-glass, we will see a ton of them with golf balls on deck??? |
| 287467 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 14 | RyanLovelace | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-20T20:09:15-0400 | Yosh said: is 6/6+6 common for logs? Are they durable if foam is heavier than Blue weight with said schedule? Guessing they're not s-glass, we will see a ton of them with golf balls on deck??? Click to expand... 6+6 over red weight is trash - dent factory and maybe last one year in good to fair condition. Over blue is decent but will likely dent a fair bit and delam in a year or two under heavy use. |
| 287468 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 15 | DJR | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-20T20:21:32-0400 | Jc Nelson said: have to laugh. read this and thought of phil becker. how about terry martin. industrial machine cut bad. human machine cut good ask malcolm campbell about why he uses machine cuts or pat rawson or... nevermind cj thunderbolt good, ci bad Click to expand... Don't forget Maurice Cole! Loves a machine cut and scrub |
| 287470 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 16 | DJR | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-20T20:33:15-0400 | Yosh said: is 6/6+6 common for logs? Are they durable if foam is heavier than Blue weight with said schedule? Guessing they're not s-glass, we will see a ton of them with golf balls on deck??? Click to expand... Is it comparable to more mass produced logs of the past? |
| 287487 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 17 | hullogfish | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-20T22:46:48-0400 | I was curious about that too, but know nothing about glassing schedules other than what feels good underfoot. |
| 287488 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 18 | Yosh | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-20T22:53:06-0400 | RyanLovelace said: 6+6 over red weight is trash - dent factory and maybe last one year in good to fair condition. Over blue is decent but will likely dent a fair bit and delam in a year or two under heavy use. Click to expand... Very good info! thank you! |
| 287503 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 19 | jory | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T02:40:56-0400 | View attachment D9AC9790-3E6F-4572-8A6A-ADB6877E0E23.jpeg How long has the CI TPH been out? A year at most? This is a second hand one for sale on Oz. Doesn't scream durable glassing! |
| 287504 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 20 | Planktom | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T03:04:47-0400 | ^^^Ah, reminds me of the 90s.. Good Times lol Remember when boards used to split at the stringer and cut you up? Character-building haha |
| 287505 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 21 | fluidworks | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T03:11:36-0400 | So they will glass heavier for a custom from what CI said, but what got me was just how shitty the QC was for the one I saw locally. Fit and finish looked rough, with a very sloppy asymmetrical fin patch. Not great for the price, especially. |
| 287506 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 22 | Planktom | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T03:14:36-0400 | You have give credit to @RyanLovelace for at least trying to differentiate between handshaped and machine cut, including pricing relative to that. Wayne should be able to command top money for his handshapes, the CIs should be significantly more affordable. The thing that should remain static between the two is build quality, as humans need to get involved here no matter what (flashy tints and pins excepted - I know there are a few people who can really step up this side of things for a premium) Ryan's LM label is made by the top guys here in the UK, no corners cut. Surely CI can sort it out too.. |
| 287508 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 23 | SeniorGrom | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T06:40:32-0400 | RyanLovelace said: 6+6 over red weight is trash - dent factory and maybe last one year in good to fair condition. Over blue is decent but will likely dent a fair bit and delam in a year or two under heavy use. Click to expand... Thanks for the input. We need this info. |
| 287519 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 24 | Jc Nelson | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T09:00:24-0400 | Planktom said: ^^^Ah, reminds me of the 90s.. Good Times lol Remember when boards used to split at the stringer and cut you up? Click to expand... just need more wax but then again, performance being inversely proportional to weight maybe not. which is the lost point in this thread. that ci log looks lively under dh. would be sirfing differently if it was a tanker |
| 287527 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 25 | Glide&Flow | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T10:16:08-0400 | Jc Nelson said: just need more wax but then again, performance being inversely proportional to weight maybe not. which is the lost point in this thread. that ci log looks lively under dh. would be sirfing differently if it was a tanker Click to expand... If you watch the old clip of him surfing the bu on his Thomas Keeper and Hi Pro Log, the surfing is pretty indistinguishable from how he is riding the same wave/size the CI log in this new footage. I'm guessing that those Thomas boards are likely traditional weight. Disclaimer-I'm often wrong about stuff. |
| 287532 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 26 | jory | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T10:26:55-0400 | Glide&Flow said: If you watch the old clip of him surfing the bu on his Thomas Keeper and Hi Pro Log, the surfing is pretty indistinguishable from how he is riding the same wave/size the CI log in this new footage. I'm guessing that those Thomas boards are likely traditional weight. Disclaimer-I'm often wrong about stuff. Click to expand... I dunno, I reckon the CI draws similar lines to the keeper and the footage of him on his Rich Model D but to me It looks like iCI is a little lighter? The Thomas keeper isn't a super heavy board either TBh |
| 287533 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 27 | jory | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T10:28:08-0400 | For reference this is the WR prototype |
| 287534 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 28 | Glide&Flow | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T10:31:23-0400 | jory said: I dunno, I reckon the CI draws similar lines to the keeper and the footage of him on his Rich Model D but to me It looks like it's a little lighter? The Thomas keeper isn't a super heavy board either TBh Click to expand... You're probably right, maybe Thomas glassed Devon's boards lighter than his stockies. Thomas told me that is standard glass schedule is 8+6 on top and 8 on the bottom. |
| 287538 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 29 | jory | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T11:17:18-0400 | Glide&Flow said: You're probably right, maybe Thomas glassed Devon's boards lighter than his stockies. Thomas told me that is standard glass schedule is 8+6 on top and 8 on the bottom. Click to expand... No I reckon that fits with how it looks like the CI is lighter to me and Devon's keeper was stock glassing 8+6 So looks a bit heavier in the footage. |
| 287539 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 30 | Jc Nelson | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T11:39:00-0400 | my wayno/ci pro mod is glassed 66/6. perfect weight imo for that model and its holding up great |
| 287540 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 31 | ks77 | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T12:01:11-0400 | Ya, I'm struggling to reconcile the complaints and concerns about a 6/6 and 6 oz glassing schedule with my own experience. I have 3 boards with this schedule between 9' and 10'6 and two glassed by Laresse laminations and one by Michael Miller and they are holding up excellently. I'll admit I don't know the foam density on each. So, seems to be more at play here than just the the weight of the glass. |
| 287541 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 32 | Planktom | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T12:07:27-0400 | Jc Nelson said: my wayno/ci pro mod is glassed 66/6. perfect weight imo for that model and its holding up great Click to expand... You know where it was finished, JC? |
| 287542 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 33 | Planktom | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T12:12:43-0400 | Jc Nelson said: just need more wax Click to expand... Exactly... Nothing more comfy than your own heel dents. IIRC, CI did a quasi-surftech endeavour for a short stint (Placebo??) and could even scan the heel dents into the program lol To paraphrase Robbie Page, 'as long as the magic side (the bottom) is clean, then who cares about anything else?' Pretty much all the Jim Banks fish I've had have dimpled decks, and pretty much all of them were magic too. |
| 287546 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 34 | Jc Nelson | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T13:06:33-0400 | Planktom said: You know where it was finished, JC? Click to expand... laresse in vta |
| 287551 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 35 | Yosh | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T13:45:01-0400 | Jc Nelson said: my wayno/ci pro mod is glassed 66/6. perfect weight imo for that model and its holding up great Click to expand... maybe s-glass? |
| 287558 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 36 | Salty | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T14:51:51-0400 | If you order a CI Log custom on the website, they offer options: |
| 287563 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 37 | Glide&Flow | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T15:22:04-0400 | Salty said: If you order a CI Log custom on the website, they offer options: Click to expand... Too bad there's not an option for a Waterman's Guild upgrade |
| 287565 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 38 | TheSurfingFarmer | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T16:06:57-0400 | I mean we knew it was coming and it looks pretty good to me. I don’t think I would foot the bill but if one found it’s way into my garage I wouldn’t hate it. |
| 287566 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 39 | Jellz | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T16:26:35-0400 | The real tragedy here is that a bunch of Devon’s disciples on the 7’2s don’t actually catch waves! On the 9’9, they will… |
| 287569 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 40 | DJR | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T16:50:43-0400 | Jellz said: The real tragedy here is that a bunch of Devon's disciples on the 7'2s don't actually catch waves! On the 9'9, they will… Click to expand... Now that's funny |
| 287592 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 41 | espi | Jul 21, 2023 | 2023-07-21T18:52:23-0400 | fluidworks said: I think you have this backwards. You have a rad hand shaped board custom to you that is unlike anyone else's in the world. And you're salty of machine made boards that are glassed with tissue paper? That said, any idea how much more one from Wayne would cost? The CI is around $1700 with tint. Seems like a no brainer to wait and get one from WR at that price. Click to expand... I paid $1800 (I think maybe $1,850) for my Model D glassed at Studio 609 (s-glass), including a glass on fin. So yes, a no-brainer. Except for the nearly year wait |
| 287614 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 42 | backtail | Jul 22, 2023 | 2023-07-21T23:57:46-0400 | hah View attachment Screen Shot 2023-07-21 at 8.55.54 PM.png IG: @toby_honk |
| 287687 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 43 | West81 | Jul 23, 2023 | 2023-07-23T06:50:15-0400 | View attachment 6c40ecba-68f3-44dc-930d-f7e8a780ac10_1280x649.jpg |
| 287728 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 44 | ArmandK | Jul 23, 2023 | 2023-07-23T14:52:10-0400 | So funny how 5 pages of this thread mainly focused on the glass job. Let's chat about the shape/foil/contours? |
| 287733 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 45 | jory | Jul 23, 2023 | 2023-07-23T15:33:43-0400 | It did occur to me that the revolutionary “low apex” rail might be pretty much the 60/40 rails Donald put on the model T’s but what do I know? Like I posted above, I actually think the shape and foil looks really good and on the money for modern “log” design. Having watched a lot of Devon’s surfing over the years, he’s surfing great on it and it looks more lively under his feet than the keeper or the model d does ( but I also think you can clearly see the Thomas influence in there and also it definitely could be argued it’s the refined evolution of his takayama model from the seedling era) |
| 287888 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 46 | Glide&Flow | Jul 25, 2023 | 2023-07-25T12:01:27-0400 | This is the clip I was using for comparing his surfing the Thomas models to the CI. Wish there was less slo mo in the Thomas boards clip. I know I'm splitting hairs probably, but I would argue that his surfing is marginally more lively on the CI than the Thomas boards. I really think this is just an effort by CI/Devon to try to follow up on the financial success they had with the CI mid, but I just think it's gonna fall flat. That CI mid had such a larger potential market. There just isn't the same throng of people that are wanting to take up traditional turny-involvement style logging, and for those that do, there are a gagillion really good board options already out there and probably wouldn't want a CI branded board. We'll see how it goes. That fin though, fuck yeah! |
| 287919 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 47 | jory | Jul 25, 2023 | 2023-07-25T15:38:02-0400 | First minute of this has some real time thomas footy Also see here..... |
| 287964 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 48 | RobG814 | Jul 26, 2023 | 2023-07-25T20:41:09-0400 | Here's more of Devon on the Thomas Keeper. I like this edit as it shows how much of a shit show surfing Malibu is |
| 288255 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 49 | Pierpont Scott | Jul 29, 2023 | 2023-07-29T17:49:36-0400 | ks77 said: Ya, I'm struggling to reconcile the complaints and concerns about a 6/6 and 6 oz glassing schedule with my own experience. I have 3 boards with this schedule between 9' and 10'6 and two glassed by Laresse laminations and one by Michael Miller and they are holding up excellently. I'll admit I don't know the foam density on each. So, seems to be more at play here than just the the weight of the glass. Click to expand... Larese lamination is me and my shop and all of Wayne's boards are 66/6 eglass if not ordered with sglass … his high pro are 64/6 |
| 288268 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 50 | SeniorGrom | Jul 29, 2023 | 2023-07-29T19:28:03-0400 | How would Davenport glass it? I like the shape too BUT. Or maybe an epoxy lamination with ‘S’. |
| 288269 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 51 | Pierpont Scott | Jul 29, 2023 | 2023-07-29T19:33:33-0400 | SeniorGrom said: How would Davenport glass it? I like the shape too BUT. Or maybe an epoxy lamination with 'S'. Click to expand... The glass schedule Wayne writes on the order card …. 66/6 the exact glass schedule he does on all his boards . |
| 288275 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 52 | SeniorGrom | Jul 30, 2023 | 2023-07-29T20:52:39-0400 | Wow ‘all’ seems inflexible. Gotta be room for custom orders. |
| 288276 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 53 | Pierpont Scott | Jul 30, 2023 | 2023-07-29T20:55:51-0400 | SeniorGrom said: Wow 'all' seems inflexible. Gotta be room for custom orders. Click to expand... You asked how Adam would glass it … the way that Wayne writes on the order card . You want a different weight of glass then you order it that way but Wayne's standard glass job is just what I wrote , most of his customs are with scloth |
| 288293 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 54 | jory | Jul 30, 2023 | 2023-07-30T04:27:55-0400 | I’m not sure the “weight” of glass is as important as how well it’s glassed. Logs don’t have to be super heavy. These modern logs benefit from slightly lighter weight as they allow more dynamic surfing. As a small and light person, I’ve moved away from heavy boards over the last few years and it’s helped my surfing definitely. That said, in Europe there have been a fair few CI and Christenson from the same factory with very fragile glass jobs which is what would give me pause….. |
| 288314 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 55 | Planktom | Jul 30, 2023 | 2023-07-30T14:44:09-0400 | Allegedly there has been a shake-up at the EU factory of late and the boards are lasting a lot longer in contrast to the previous reports of brittle (too much catalyst? @Pierpont Scott ) and/or poorly sanded boards. |
| 288316 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 56 | Pierpont Scott | Jul 30, 2023 | 2023-07-30T14:55:59-0400 | Planktom said: Allegedly there has been a shake-up at the EU factory of late and the boards are lasting a lot longer in contrast to the previous reports of brittle (too much catalyst? @Pierpont Scott ) and/or poorly sanded boards. Click to expand... It's hard to say … many things factor into a finished product…. Materials , labor, environmental conditions, etc . But for the most part Channel Islands puts out a very consistent quality product on a daily basis…. |
| 288450 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 57 | jvri | Aug 1, 2023 | 2023-07-31T23:27:47-0400 | Flow master in this clip on the log. The whip/response on the second bottom turn is FAST… https://www.instagram.com/p/CvYimFPRfHO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
| 295922 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 58 | hullogfish | Oct 28, 2023 | 2023-10-28T16:17:21-0400 | Has anyone actually RIDDEN one yet that can give feedback or comparisons? |
| 296002 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 59 | Bruce Fowler | Oct 29, 2023 | 2023-10-29T17:01:53-0400 | ks77 said: Ya, I'm struggling to reconcile the complaints and concerns about a 6/6 and 6 oz glassing schedule with my own experience. I have 3 boards with this schedule between 9' and 10'6 and two glassed by Laresse laminations and one by Michael Miller and they are holding up excellently. I'll admit I don't know the foam density on each. So, seems to be more at play here than just the the weight of the glass. Click to expand... Context is important. Ryan is citing U.S. Blanks densities. Arctic Foam is consistently harder foam than USB.... I shape both. As far as who glassed what: Yater regularly does 6/6 & 6 as di I for longboards. Both glassed by Haakenson...... durable w/no issues. Yater probably is getting USB, the majprity of mine are Arctic w/some USB. No issues. |
| 296048 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 60 | Qustom | Oct 30, 2023 | 2023-10-30T01:41:13-0400 | ks77 said: Ya, I'm struggling to reconcile the complaints and concerns about a 6/6 and 6 oz glassing schedule with my own experience. I have 3 boards with this schedule between 9' and 10'6 and two glassed by Laresse laminations and one by Michael Miller and they are holding up excellently. I'll admit I don't know the foam density on each. So, seems to be more at play here than just the the weight of the glass. Click to expand... Well one factor (that has probably already been stated by others but I jumped in midstream) is that they are most likely using very close tolerant blanks needing very little machining, making the glass job pretty much right over the crust of the bread rather than the soft doughy middle. And if it's a heavier weight than standard foam, factor that in too. But as somebody said earlier, where's the soul in it? To me the goal should be an $800-$900 spare board to use as a backup should your main rides be out of commission, crowded spots/weekends/Halloween days, loaning out to friends, etc. Not to say it can't perform, and I'm sure there some who would prize it as their daily, but there's a reason mass market goods are generally less expensive - it's called supply and demand. |
| 296051 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 61 | Planktom | Oct 30, 2023 | 2023-10-30T03:20:02-0400 | I think there is a contingent of the shortboard community who may be 'log-curious'. This group will likely have no hang-ups over machine shapes (most may probably be reassured by this fact) and the CI branding will help pull them in. |
| 316306 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 62 | takedown | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-09T20:40:49-0400 | I'm sold on this board. I've been in a constant pursuit of learning how to noseride and while I've had moments where I've put it all together, it's not been consistent until I got on to the CI Log. It could be the perfect timing of finally figuring it out and switching boards, or maybe it's the fact that I got the 10' so I'm getting on many more waves and it's more stable for my weight at that length, whatever it is I'm loving it. I've been a fan of Wayne Rich's shapes since I got on a CJ x Wayne Haven in thunderbolt. I remember meeting a guy at San O last year when the lower lot was closed and there were only a handful of people down there and he was on a Model D from Wayne, one of the prototypes for the CI Log and he couldn't stop raving about what it did for his surfing. How I came to getting this board was pretty wild. I've been on the search for a shape / shaper that will shape a blank, unglassed, and ship it off to Carbon Compact to be made into a two piece travel board. Several shapers I've asked said absolutely not, almost like they were insulted that I'd ask (too bad for them, it would have meant the sale of 2 boards). One requirement I had was that I needed to try the shape first and really make sure that I liked it before investing in the travel board. Marc Andreini has his boards converted to two piece and he's been really happy with Carbon, so I first reached out to him about having a board done. The problem is I have no way to try his shapes and I'm not willing to just cross my fingers because the cost at the end of the day is not low. Marc suggested I get a shape from Carbon, but again same problem with being unable to try out the shape. Flying to New York to give it a go, seemed like too much when I could find a shape here that I like. Fast forward to last month and I took a 2 week road trip to SoCal. I started out with a quick session at C St and in the middle of the session Devon paddled out. There were quite a few other guys in the water one of which I struck up a con… |
| 316335 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 63 | Driftwood | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T03:55:40-0400 | One heck of a post. Thanks for the morning read. |
| 316358 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 64 | Bruce Fowler | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T10:43:58-0400 | RyanLovelace said: 6+6 over red weight is trash - dent factory and maybe last one year in good to fair condition. Over blue is decent but will likely dent a fair bit and delam in a year or two under heavy use. Click to expand... I agree. That being said, I've always found Arctic Foam to be harder foam than U.S. Blanks. Both are quality foamers & USB has a deep catalog much more hand shaper friendly. As far as files, I've had enough time now to develop a love hate relationship with the CNC facility. Scaling is only partly successful, and depending upon the competency & integerity of who is cutting them, they can end up. great............ or, a complete bummer. There is an issue with scaleability and rocker, which is the key most ingredient in any surfboard. I get why Ryan is offering a limited range of certain 'magic' sleds machined in order to control the original handshaped design integrity. I learned my lesson the hard way and ended up with a chainsaw and lo$$eS...... |
| 316359 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 65 | Bruce Fowler | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T10:45:43-0400 | jory said: View attachment 61420 How long has the CI TPH been out? A year at most? This is a second hand one for sale on Oz. Doesn't scream durable glassing! Click to expand... C.I. has NEVER been known for durability. Their largely deserved reputation was creating high performance surfboards for the best competitive and free surfing surfers in the world... Edit: Al introduced Tri Plane Hulls decades ago after George Greenough & Chris Brock's collaboration that Al picked up on and ran with it. |
| 316370 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 66 | jory | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T12:43:13-0400 | Interesting news snippet, Devon is currently prototyping a Ci/Wayne rich 9’8 noseridwr model |
| 316373 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 67 | fluidworks | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T13:42:52-0400 | takedown said: I'm sold on this board. I've been in a constant pursuit of learning how to noseride and while I've had moments where I've put it all together, it's not been consistent until I got on to the CI Log. It could be the perfect timing of finally figuring it out and switching boards, or maybe it's the fact that I got the 10' so I'm getting on many more waves and it's more stable for my weight at that length, whatever it is I'm loving it. I've been a fan of Wayne Rich's shapes since I got on a CJ x Wayne Haven in thunderbolt. I remember meeting a guy at San O last year when the lower lot was closed and there were only a handful of people down there and he was on a Model D from Wayne, one of the prototypes for the CI Log and he couldn't stop raving about what it did for his surfing. How I came to getting this board was pretty wild. I've been on the search for a shape / shaper that will shape a blank, unglassed, and ship it off to Carbon Compact to be made into a two piece travel board. Several shapers I've asked said absolutely not, almost like they were insulted that I'd ask (too bad for them, it would have meant the sale of 2 boards). One requirement I had was that I needed to try the shape first and really make sure that I liked it before investing in the travel board. Marc Andreini has his boards converted to two piece and he's been really happy with Carbon, so I first reached out to him about having a board done. The problem is I have no way to try his shapes and I'm not willing to just cross my fingers because the cost at the end of the day is not low. Marc suggested I get a shape from Carbon, but again same problem with being unable to try out the shape. Flying to New York to give it a go, seemed like too much when I could find a shape here that I like. Fast forward to last month and I took a 2 week road trip to SoCal. I started out with a quick session at C St and in the middle of the session Devon paddled out. There were quite a few other guys in the… |
| 316376 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 68 | takedown | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T14:03:36-0400 | fluidworks said: Very nice post. I definitely poo pooed the CI log initially, but having heard so many good things I need to try one for myself. I messaged Devon and said he could stop by the factory and borrow one of the 9'9s to demo. Click to expand... Nice, good luck with the demo. Tupi (longboardarian) was demo'ing the 9'9 and he really liked it. Someone posted a chat with him and he was comparing the CI Log with the Slasher Low pro as they both land in the similar genre of involvement logs. I'm going to give the Slasher low pro a go this summer when they arrive in Oregon, because why not |
| 316385 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 69 | Moustache Lou | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T15:55:16-0400 | takedown said: Nice, good luck with the demo. Tupi (longboardarian) was demo'ing the 9'9 and he really liked it. Someone posted a chat with him and he was comparing the CI Log with the Slasher Low pro as they both land in the similar genre of involvement logs. I'm going to give the Slasher low pro a go this summer when they arrive in Oregon, because why not Click to expand... At the risk of sounding like a 'popout-hyping Barney' (LOL), I want to try out the Slasher Low Pro as well..... #TeamThunderbolt #PopoutMafia |
| 316399 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 70 | xjaywalker | Jun 10, 2024 | 2024-06-10T19:27:25-0400 | takedown said: I'm sold on this board. I've been in a constant pursuit of learning how to noseride and while I've had moments where I've put it all together, it's not been consistent until I got on to the CI Log. It could be the perfect timing of finally figuring it out and switching boards, or maybe it's the fact that I got the 10' so I'm getting on many more waves and it's more stable for my weight at that length, whatever it is I'm loving it. I've been a fan of Wayne Rich's shapes since I got on a CJ x Wayne Haven in thunderbolt. I remember meeting a guy at San O last year when the lower lot was closed and there were only a handful of people down there and he was on a Model D from Wayne, one of the prototypes for the CI Log and he couldn't stop raving about what it did for his surfing. How I came to getting this board was pretty wild. I've been on the search for a shape / shaper that will shape a blank, unglassed, and ship it off to Carbon Compact to be made into a two piece travel board. Several shapers I've asked said absolutely not, almost like they were insulted that I'd ask (too bad for them, it would have meant the sale of 2 boards). One requirement I had was that I needed to try the shape first and really make sure that I liked it before investing in the travel board. Marc Andreini has his boards converted to two piece and he's been really happy with Carbon, so I first reached out to him about having a board done. The problem is I have no way to try his shapes and I'm not willing to just cross my fingers because the cost at the end of the day is not low. Marc suggested I get a shape from Carbon, but again same problem with being unable to try out the shape. Flying to New York to give it a go, seemed like too much when I could find a shape here that I like. Fast forward to last month and I took a 2 week road trip to SoCal. I started out with a quick session at C St and in the middle of the session Devon paddled out. There were quite a few other guys in the… |
| 316416 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 71 | Milliniumfalcon | Jun 11, 2024 | 2024-06-10T21:16:10-0400 | I felt up the ci log 9’9 next to a 9’11 apex today…similar outline but you could fit almost 2 ci logs in 1 apex…that ci is pretty foiled, especially up front |
| 316488 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 72 | Guest | Jun 11, 2024 | 2024-06-11T17:26:45-0400 | Their CI surtech popouts sales are down. Nobody cares about their shortboards. Now they are trying to push their "log". I thought Brett said in an interview, alternative is dead and potato chip thruster are making a comeback lol. |
| 316489 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 73 | Guest | Jun 11, 2024 | 2024-06-11T17:28:35-0400 | Milliniumfalcon said: I felt up the ci log 9'9 next to a 9'11 apex today…similar outline but you could fit almost 2 ci logs in 1 apex…that ci is pretty foiled, especially up front Click to expand... This guy love corporate boards made way too much. I bet your wardrobe consists of billabong, quiksilver, vissla, volcom. |
| 316511 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 74 | Milliniumfalcon | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-11T20:23:41-0400 | N PancakeMix said: This guy love corporate boards made way too much. I bet your wardrobe consists of billabong, quiksilver, vissla, volcom Click to expand... Not me man, I only wear the finest hand sewn duds from local hand picked cotton. |
| 316519 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 75 | Ricksurfin | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-11T21:30:05-0400 | I only buy my shapers used clothes, and that’s only if he doesn’t wash them. My souls got soul. |
| 316520 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 76 | TheSurfingFarmer | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-11T21:41:12-0400 | this thread keeps getting better and better |
| 316523 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 77 | seelegs | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-11T21:49:59-0400 | Board looks sweet I’d be more interested in just getting Wayne Rich to do it instead of ci for a custom |
| 316529 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 78 | Moustache Lou | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-11T22:23:33-0400 | PancakeMix said: This guy love corporate boards made way too much. I bet your wardrobe consists of billabong, quiksilver, vissla, volcom. Click to expand... *Yawn* |
| 316537 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 79 | Guest | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T00:33:30-0400 | seelegs said: Board looks sweet I'd be more interested in just getting Wayne Rich to do it instead of ci for a custom Click to expand... With all due respect to Wayne, he's a fantastic shaper, but there are plenty of other shapers I'd choose these days. For me, once a shaper licenses their designs for royalties, I lose interest in their work. I prefer to support shapers who are keeping things true to their roots and helping out local glass shops. That goes for Hinds, Mann, and many others. There are a lot of great options out there. |
| 316538 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 80 | Ricksurfin | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T01:10:34-0400 | How dare those shapers wanting to make money so they can better their, and their families lives. They’ve got hipsters that need them to stay true to them. Rat Bastards. |
| 316543 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 81 | West81 | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T01:43:51-0400 | PancakeMix said: With all due respect to Wayne, he's a fantastic shaper, but there are plenty of other shapers I'd choose these days. For me, once a shaper licenses their designs for royalties, I lose interest in their work. I prefer to support shapers who are keeping things true to their roots and helping out local glass shops. That goes for Hinds, Mann, and many others. There are a lot of great options out there. Click to expand... Roger Hinds? https://www.rogerhindssurfboards.com/surftech |
| 316544 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 82 | messierishome | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T01:46:22-0400 | PancakeMix said: With all due respect to Wayne, he's a fantastic shaper, but there are plenty of other shapers I'd choose these days. For me, once a shaper licenses their designs for royalties, I lose interest in their work. I prefer to support shapers who are keeping things true to their roots and helping out local glass shops. That goes for Hinds, Mann, and many others. There are a lot of great options out there. Click to expand... Lol |
| 316545 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 83 | applebutter | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T01:48:51-0400 | I want to see pancake’s quiver |
| 316547 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 84 | Stingray | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T02:37:02-0400 | PancakeMix said: With all due respect to Wayne, he's a fantastic shaper, but there are plenty of other shapers I'd choose these days. For me, once a shaper licenses their designs for royalties, I lose interest in their work. I prefer to support shapers who are keeping things true to their roots and helping out local glass shops. That goes for Hinds, Mann, and many others. There are a lot of great options out there. Click to expand... View attachment 1718174215850.gif |
| 316548 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 85 | jory | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T03:20:14-0400 | messierishome said: Lol Click to expand... Dan Mann? https://www.firewiresurfboards.com/collections/prestige-mannkine Like I said you need to try harder…. |
| 316555 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 86 | Guest | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T07:08:21-0400 | jory said: Dan Mann? https://www.firewiresurfboards.com/collections/prestige-mannkine Like I said you need to try harder…. Click to expand... got my whole sentences mixed up haha. I had hinds board before, but soon he associated himself his name to make popouts I got rid of his boards. If Walden status is their goal, that's path to no where. I haven't seen new Walden in the past few years here in Santa Cruz. Nobody talks about them but couple of old guys that are new to surfing with their 4" thick Walden eps surftech who starting to surf. |
| 316556 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 87 | jory | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T08:01:17-0400 | I suspect Walden is enjoying a well funded retirement. That was certainly his intention when he got involved with GSI. Also your posts have degenerated into the “look a flying pig” “cucumber” “here’s a different subject” arguing style..... |
| 316557 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 88 | PeakMaster | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T08:05:21-0400 | jory said: I suspect Walden is enjoying a well funded retirement. That was certainly his intention when he got involved with GSI. Also your posts have degenerated into the "look a flying pig" "cucumber" "here's a different subject" arguing style..... Click to expand... Not to mention that he's "the father of the modern longboard", whatever the fuck that means. |
| 316559 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 89 | Moustache Lou | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T09:14:48-0400 | applebutter said: I want to see pancake's quiver Click to expand... I don't want to see pancake quiver, nor do I want to know what might make him do so....... |
| 316561 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 90 | Planktom | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T09:24:37-0400 | PeakMaster said: Not to mention that he's "the father of the modern longboard", whatever the fuck that means. Click to expand... He identifies as a Kookbox, maybe? Whatever.... His legacy is irrelevant in any case |
| 316562 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 91 | Planktom | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T09:28:36-0400 | jory said: I suspect Walden is enjoying a well funded retirement. That was certainly his intention when he got involved with GSI. Click to expand... Devils advocate to finish the sentence.. ... and the cost of which was his reputation and some potential wider detriment to the traditional surfboard building industry. |
| 316563 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 92 | jory | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T09:52:22-0400 | Planktom said: Devils advocate to finish the sentence.. ... and the cost of which was his reputation and some potential wider detriment to the traditional surfboard building industry. Click to expand... All true but he didn't seem like he cared much at the time I spoke to him! Besides Walden is only relevant as he's part of pancakes "oh look a squirrel" arguing |
| 316565 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 93 | messierishome | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T10:59:03-0400 | The worst thing that might come of this thread is that I'll never look at pancakes the same really kind of makes me want to gag. |
| 316566 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 94 | Guest | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T11:28:16-0400 | jory said: I suspect Walden is enjoying a well funded retirement. That was certainly his intention when he got involved with GSI. Also your posts have degenerated into the "look a flying pig" "cucumber" "here's a different subject" arguing style..... Click to expand... With the help of you barneys, you guys definitely funded a retirement funds for the share holders, CEO, factory CEO overseas and him, and now here you guys are in this forum thinking you guys know it all. I'm happy to help my fellow surfers doing all the hardwork and helping their local community. I bet my money to them. |
| 316568 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 95 | Moustache Lou | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T11:50:08-0400 | PancakeMix said: With the help of you barneys, you guys definitely funded a retirement funds for the share holders, CEO, factory CEO overseas and him, and now here you guys are in this forum thinking you guys know it all. I'm happy to help my fellow surfers doing all the hardwork and helping their local community. I bet my money to them. Click to expand... You better watch what you say… Might find yourself on the receiving end of a bonobos chimp…. |
| 316569 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 96 | Stingray | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T11:59:10-0400 | PancakeMix said: and now here you guys are in this forum thinking you guys know it all. Click to expand... |
| 316572 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 97 | Planktom | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T12:19:38-0400 | Anyone can sell out, it is not something to be heralded in our culture IMO Jefff Grosso once said of skateboarding; "When did we find our soul? When did we carve it out, and sell it to the lowest bidder?" It either chimes for you in the context of surfing too, or it doesn't. Wayno, Britt and Britt's team are not selling out, but they are a good example of how you don't need to go outside of surfing/surfers to scale up and offer a quality design that can be customised and enjoyed in multiple places around the world Randy, Slater, Walden etc... Well... |
| 316573 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 98 | waveslider | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T12:24:54-0400 | Wayne Rich did go the Surftech route too |
| 316574 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 99 | Moustache Lou | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T12:30:25-0400 | waveslider said: Wayne Rich did go the Surftech route too Click to expand... I hear he also killed Kenny… THAT BASTARD!! |
| 316575 | 16398 | CI log dropped. Looks great to me | 100 | Planktom | Jun 12, 2024 | 2024-06-12T12:33:31-0400 | Thunderbolt, not surf tech, unless I'm mistaken Anyway, this thread is about the CI Log and my example was directly related to that waveslider said: Wayne Rich did go the Surftech route too Click to expand... |
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