{"database": "surfing", "table": "posts", "rows": [["201850", "9758", "CJ Nelson Outlier reviews?", 38, "jory", "Mar 21, 2021", "2021-03-21T07:39:15-0400", "Listened to an interesting podcast with ben skinner who does his skin dog brand through thunderbolt. He\u2019s sold on the construction itself but he also made some interesting points about how being involved with FireWire meant he could scale his business and actually make a living at it in a way that he couldn\u2019t have before (& also that thunderbolt themselves had kind of hit a wall themselves and needed access to better distribution.)\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDragging this back to the boards themselves......\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nJust rode the Vaq in San o style stomach high peelers. Took a few waves to dial it in but was a really fun session. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSo comparisons / impressions as follows.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe vaq paddles badly, like it\u2019s under water!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThey are different boards with a similar flavour. They both like a bowley section and bog a little in super flat sections.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe vaquero feels like a proper hull. The roll in the bottom is much more noticeable and the board feels quite \u201ctippy\u201d when you first ride it. It covers ground laterally at an unbelievable speed, climbing and dropping and drawing out bottom turns. It cuts back much more naturally than the full on hull I\u2019ve ridden and you can gently carve a turn back to the whitewater rather than just wallowing through an s turn stall. Backside is do able but it\u2019s definately more fun on your forehand. It rewards a smooth flow. Loved it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe outlier is much more neutral to surf. The flatter bottom contours mean you can push and generally be more aggressive through your turns. It\u2019s less squirley on your backhand. The outlier is definately less far up the hull design branch than the vaquero and is \u201ceasier\u201d to surf especially if you are an intermediate surfer - it requires less of a particular style whereas the vaquero definately rewards treating it like a proper hull. The outlier is a great every day board. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThey\u2019re different enough to own both."]], "columns": ["post_id", "thread_id", "thread_title", "post_number", "author_username", "post_date", "post_date_iso", "post_body"], "primary_keys": ["post_id"], "primary_key_values": ["201850"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 0.7433299997501308, "license": "Public Domain"}