{"database": "surfing", "table": "posts", "is_view": false, "human_description_en": "where thread_id = 330", "rows": [["26670", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 1, "deepsouth", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T11:54:10-0400", "Rats!  The entire northern Gulf Coast will soon be shut down.  Thousands of businesses will fold and people will lose their jobs.  Can they move somewhere else?  Not likely.  Who wants to buy a house on the Gulf Coast right now, or in the future when there are no jobs?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBP repeatedly ignored standard safety procedures in an effort to maximize profits.  They ignored their own data from the well.  They are using dispersant under the surface to keep the oil from getting to the surface where it can be cleaned up.  But it's still oil and it's still in the water.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBP HAS RAPED US!"], ["26671", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 2, "fingers1", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T13:17:30-0400", "how the hell are you allowed to drill five thousand feet beneath the surface without a viable, proven contingency plan?"], ["26672", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 3, "deepsouth", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T13:35:41-0400", "There are rules, regulations and safety procedures.  When followed, along with the use of a functioning blowout preventer, there is a \nvery\n small chance of this happening.  Unfortunately, BP didn't employ any of these measures, even to the point that they knew the BOP wasn't right but kept on anyway.  Once you have a blowout at such a depth, your options are limited.  The government didn't enforce the regulations and BP ignored standard safety practices.  That's how it happened.  People didn't do their jobs.  They should go to jail."], ["26673", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 4, "sc-longboarder", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T13:54:31-0400", "they should go to jail but the damage is already done. like killing someone but it's to late for the victims. this is just terrible and it will take years for things to get back to close to normal."], ["26675", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 5, "skeeter", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T14:13:32-0400", "\"renewable energy sources aren't viable.\" the bullsh!t line of the century. \n\n\n\noh, yea, let's go heavy into nuke energy too, where the waste is toxic for a quarter million years."], ["26677", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 6, "Guest", "Jun 1, 2010", "2010-06-01T16:17:27-0400", "This and the flooding of New Orleans are two things that have forebodingly  haunted me since the early eighties when I lived in SE Louisiana and studied the ecology of the marshes and tributaries from Bayou Sauvage to Ocean Springs.  Tears are welling up now as I mourn the loss of natural beauty and diversity of such a rich ecosystem.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBP was a willing accomplice, and they may even be guilty of 11 counts of negligent homicide, but we are all of us willing accomplices in the murder of the Gulf Coast. Convenient auto and plne travel, the ability to hop in and cruise to find the best break for a particular swell, the second fridge where we store our beer, the lights we use to grow our \"vegetables,\" our plasma screen TV's, these were the weapons we used to gut the Gulf. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWe are all complicitous in allowing 30 years of roll backs in government oversight and weakness in fiduciary stewardship to erode our ability to do anything important the right way.Our demands for growth in our 401(k) and stocks, demands that drove corporations to push back hard on  regulations, and our nation's fetish for David Stockman's Reaganomics fantasy, where tax cuts and military spending were seen as utterly compatible, all the time denying funds to develop alternative energy technologies. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI blame Reagan. I Blame Bush the smarter and Bush the dumber, I blame Clintonian Democratic political triangulation and compromise on critical issues like energy independence and the environment.  I blame Al Gore and Joh Kerry for being spinelss pussies with no core principles. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBut mostly I blame our selfish, narcissistic, consumerist society for killing the beauty and future of my precious Gulf Coast. This morning I apologized to every pelican that flew by the lineup, and felt as empty as ever over their cousins' fate."], ["26685", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 7, "slosurf", "Jun 2, 2010", "2010-06-02T13:55:23-0400", ".\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["26686", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 8, "slosurf", "Jun 2, 2010", "2010-06-02T13:55:38-0400", ".\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. 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Tears are welling up now as I mourn the loss of natural beauty and diversity of such a rich ecosystem.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBP was a willing accomplice, and they may even be guilty of 11 counts of negligent homicide, but we are all of us willing accomplices in the murder of the Gulf Coast. Convenient auto and plne travel, the ability to hop in and cruise to find the best break for a particular swell, the second fridge where we store our beer, the lights we use to grow our \"vegetables,\" our plasma screen TV's, these were the weapons we used to gut the Gulf.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWe are all complicitous in allowing 30 years of roll backs in government oversight and weakness in fiduciary stewardship to erode our ability to do anything important the right way.Our demands for growth in our 401(k) and stocks, demands that drove corporations to push back hard on  regulations, and our nation's fetish for David Stockman's Reaganomics fantasy, where tax cuts and military spending were seen as utterly compatible, all the time denying funds to develop alternative energy technologies.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI blame Reagan. I Blame Bush the smarter and Bush the dumber, I blame Clintonian Democratic political triangulation and compromise on critical issues like energy independence and the environment.  I blame Al Gore and Joh Kerry for being spinelss pussies with no core principles.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBut mostly I blame our selfish, narcissistic, consumerist society for killing the beauty and future of my precious Gulf Coast. This morning I apologized to every pelican that flew by the lineup, and felt as empty as ever over their cousins' fate.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nYeah you blame a laundry list of people. But nowhere on your list do I see the current President and his team of befuddled lackies perpetuating red tape and wrenching their hands and doing everything but getting some balls, taking some action and resolving the issue. The Administration that Couldn't and Didn't should and will be his legacy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWhat are your plans for leaving \"our selfish, narcissistic, consumerist society for killing the beauty and future of my precious Gulf Coast\"?"], ["26690", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 12, "deepsouth", "Jun 3, 2010", "2010-06-02T22:47:18-0400", "While I am not a big fan of liberalism, I think we need to make a distinction when it comes to blaming the government.  The government does not have the expertise or technology to plug the leak.  That resides in the oil industry, although BP has chased their best people away over the years by driving away the best, most experienced people and replacing them with younger, cheaper employees.  The good people are still out there in the industry, tho.  What the government does have is expertise and technology to mitigate the effects of the spill and they have been painfully slow in their response.  Now oil in in the Louisiana marshes and threatens marshes and estuaries farther east.  Still no plan or assistance from the government to protect these precious resources.  They have also allowed BP to use dispersant which hides the oil but doesn't reduce the danger.  In fact, oil on the surface can be dealt with but oil in the water column (put there by dispersant) cannot be cleaned up and is more dangerous to wildlife than if it were on the surface where it could be skimmed or burned."], ["26691", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 13, "skeeter", "Jun 3, 2010", "2010-06-03T01:12:23-0400", "this is but one example of government and industry coming home to roost, as a result of their cozy relationship over the past 50+ years, even before. our government is an extension of the corporate boardroom, so all of them- repubs, dems, whatever president, you name them, are beholden to their corporate benefactors, march to their drumming, play golf with them, take their phone calls and pass their laws. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nour entire electorate is rigged so the slate of candidates the people get to elect are already bought and paid for. plain and simple. the RNC and DNC use gang tactics to vet all their candidates, even down to the local level, for chrissakes.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nall those congressional testimonies of senators asking \"tough\" questions of their CEO criminal chums, in front of the public cameras, is laughable posing, a page from their old boy fake book. taxpayers get to fund their \"investigations\" which lead nowhere.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nunfortunately, this kind of shit is going to continue, until the people suffer enough, and finally get up off their barcoloungers and shut off the goddam TV, and hit the streets. like my father said, \"you can do this the easy way, or the hard way\", and the way things seem to be going, it's gonna be the hard way. otherwise, there won't be anything left for our children, their children, and their children after that."], ["26692", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 14, "SMUKES", "Jun 4, 2010", "2010-06-04T09:36:06-0400", "I am a \"liberal\", a \"proqressive\" and whatever lable you riqhty ****** douch nozzles want to pin over my bleedinq heart. Fact is,  Pete was dead on and in less than 3 paraqrahs summed up the whole enchalada. Derequlation and an oil based enerqy economy is total dumbfuckery."], ["26693", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 15, "KevinJ", "Jun 4, 2010", "2010-06-04T10:36:44-0400", "Whoooo Hoooooo thanks BP! \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTomorrow instead of surfing P'cola or Navarre I'm going to burn some gas (isn't that ironic) and head east to find a good breaking wave just so I don't have to worry about getting slimed by some freaking tar ball.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFortunately for me I have had the pleasure of surfing in Newport Beach and have had to clean Oil/Tar of my feet, board, and wetsuit before so if I encounter your crap further east know I what to do! \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSomeone needs to go to jail over this! I hope the Emmer Effer who decided to take the shortcuts was one of those 11 that lost their life. Probably not but you can always hope! Lets see safety vs $$$, doing whats right vs $$$? aw ef lets go with $$$.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFunny thing dumbass you just cost your Co. Billions! \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYeah I'm pissed!"], ["26697", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 16, "PeakMaster", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T05:41:43-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I am a \"liberal\", a \"proqressive\" and whatever lable you riqhty ****** douch nozzles want to pin over my bleedinq heart. Fact is, Pete was dead on and in less than 3 paraqrahs summed up the whole enchalada. Derequlation and an oil based enerqy economy is total dumbf#%kery.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\"Peacefulpetes\" an idiot and so are you.You and he are both assholes now that you have chosen to align yourself with his philosophical rant. Is your surfboard made from resin? Plant resin or polyurethane resin? Jerkoff. Your car? Your house? Your computer? Get the point flea brain? And I will throw in my comments on your special President...the do nothing,ball-less,ineffective tool that he is. To call him a leader is an insult to every foot soldier in the US armed service. He has the collective resources of the entire US at his disposal to mitigate this problem and yet it continues. f#%k you both for not calling that out. He and his administration have now proven what was long suspected...simply put ineffective. losers. Man the f#%k up and call it like it is and admit he is one big mistake as a president of this country and this debacle is proof positive.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYour collective apologist attitude is yours and his... like 2 queers together but hey, explore and have fun!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFact is jerkoff, I am no more responsible for the oil leak in the Gulf then I am for the Holocaust, the bombing of Hiroshima,the Bird Flu, Lindsay Lohans behavior or the last rainfall in Wausau, Wisconsin. Yeah, and I like both my 50\" plasma TVs at both of my homes. And I like using oil based stains on my decks...so f#%k you both again.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow's that weeping for and apologizing to pelicans working out for you both? I apologized to the stones next to the pool in my backyard for pissing on them. I felt much better after I did that...and the poor weeds that I sprayed with Roundup. Goddamit.Oh wait, I have to puke.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOh, did I say f#%k You before, if not. There you go douchebags."], ["26698", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 17, "SuperKool", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T06:17:51-0400", "I'm gonna burn a bunch of oil during the next week 'cause the waves up here have been one disappointment after another...so I'm going to SoCal in June?...well, at least it will be a change of scenery.  Burn gas, burn kooks, burn buds...burn burn burn enjoy the world for what it is while you're here and if you don't like it ride your bamboo bicycle to the Gulf and help clean up those birds.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHave you guys not given up hope for mankind yet???  How sweet. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPolitical discussions are always so much fun, let's all start slamming beers and talking about Amerika and see where it goes...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWe are a cancer with a conscience...still the dumbest animals on Earth...surf and enjoy life if you are lucky enough to be able to...hippies smell too bad to be surfers...these threads are fun...and too many tacos is a bad thing...and I have a crush on PeakMaster...blah...blah...blah..."], ["26699", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 18, "SMUKES", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T11:35:34-0400", "Blah hahaha. Soooo classic, how's that hook taste peak? Fuckin interweb touqh quys kill me, strait to the qay stuff, how... Ahh, qay.  just classic. You pussy, this lib vet is 100 percent sure yould be spittinq teeth if we ever met broham. Just killer how qay and lame you came off back there. Oh VPC where are you?"], ["26700", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 19, "PeakMaster", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T15:04:29-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Blah hahaha. Soooo classic, how's that hook taste peak? f#%kin interweb touqh quys kill me, strait to the qay stuff, how... Ahh, qay. just classic. You pussy, this lib vet is 100 percent sure yould be spittinq teeth if we ever met broham. Just killer how qay and lame you came off back there. Oh VPC where are you?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tYeah, well then Smukes. Did you post that shit because you believe it? Or did you post it trolling for a reaction or for entertainment value which of course suggests you don't really believe it. Either way, it's starting to look like it ain't real."], ["26701", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 20, "Guest", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T16:42:54-0400", "O.K., I'll add him to the pile. This all can be unequivocally placed squarely on the heads of the petro-whores in Washington, and that appears to include our current Predident. Obama's been exactly what you described. An ineffectual,  hand-wringing triangulator. If, instead, he were like Bush, he'd run fucking roughshod over laws and people to do whatever the fuck he wanted to do.  I just wish Obama would do something \"bold\" with our much-vaunted military besides continuing Bush's game of petro-keep away with the Chinese. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIn citing Clinton and the rest of those who compromised rigorous environmental policies in favor of corporate donations, I purposely tried to keep frank partisanship out of my last post, and to spread the blame.  It was a false equivalency. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMore specifically, the Halliburton robber barons  ran this country into an oil slick, and even launched a war of oilquest to enrich their cronies in Houston.  We had eight years of bald-faced profiteering, petro-murder, and environmental rape under the right wing. Bush and his slick band of thieves loaded every single government agency with political hacks who did their damndest to gut every regulation and environmental protection in the Federal Register, particularly those involving the oil industry. Who do you think was trading blowjobs, meth, and gambling chits  for fake oil rig inspections? Democrats? Obama?  Who let the oil companies literally write their own inspection in pencil, then trced over it in pen?  Damned right, Bush-Cheney people.  And then the they offered up Bible Spice and her drill rig pole dance act.  Fucking deny that my friend.  \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI'm an environmental activist, and I don't feel the need to justify my actions or my outrage to you or anyone else. I've spent a lifetime doing environmental and scientific education, including years of research and teaching in the Gulf of Mexico, fundraising, and wasting far too much of my time trying to stop what are mostly Republican assclowns from destroying the earth. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMy plan is to keep up the fight."], ["26702", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 21, "Guest", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T16:45:50-0400", "go put on a pot of tea."], ["26703", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 22, "PeakMaster", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T17:33:20-0400", "peacefulpete\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            go put on a pot of tea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tWell I gotta say, your last 2 posts make a hell of a lot more sense then your first one. In fact  I would agree with your second post almost in it's entirety. But no one can tell me that the President...any of them, but this shit is happening on Obama's watch, any President has the resources, authority and power to stop this thing in hours, not months. Hell, he could mobilize an entire legion of OSHA enforcement personnel to make life miserable for every aspect of BPs business, retail stores, oil storage,drilling transporting. What's more important is he could squeeze other oil companies to pitch in, lend equipment and personnel until this fucking leak is stopped.Mobilize military,government and the private sector. Oh no, wait, I think he's on vacation now.Maybe when he gets back. No, he is in it as much as the ass-clown Republicans you mentioned.That tea sounds good right about now."], ["26704", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 23, "SMUKES", "Jun 5, 2010", "2010-06-05T17:45:16-0400", "Oh by the way pm, fuck you."], ["26705", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 24, "deepsouth", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-05T23:37:27-0400", "The day Bobby Jindal asked for a sand berm to protect the marshes the prez should have been on the phone to the general in charge of the corps of engineers and told him to get every dredge available on the job pronto.  They could have sent the bill to BP.  To this day the federal gov't hasn't taken any physical action to mitigate the effects of the spill.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe government does not have the technology or expertise to stop the leak.  They do have the technology and expertise to mitigate the effects but they have been conspicuous by their absence.  If those marshes die, so will the entire Gulf of Mexico.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt is much less important now to lay blame for the disaster that is upon us than it is to do everything possible to minimize the damage it causes.  This isn't being done by BP or the government.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's all politics and profit.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDisgusting."], ["26706", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 25, "Guest", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T00:57:39-0400", "PM,\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIn all seriousness, thanks for the civility. I do appreciate that politics can gets hot and passionate (but not in a good way \n and usually try to keep it out of topical discussions on the 'net. But this is an ocean-driven forum, and the ocean is hurting in a major way.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI believe the animosity we see above in this thread is fueled on both sides by a corporate media who benefits greatly from infighting and bickering amongst the voters. The status quo is acceptable only to CEO's and the top 1% of earners in this land, and the bullshit Lindsey Lohan-type media coverage serves mostly to distract us from serious things like the destruction of a massive ecosystem.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI'm super passionate about our oceans and their tributaries.  I spend 12-15 hours a week in the Pacific ocean now, which pales in comparison to my youth on the Gulf coast.  Given the venue, I assume our passion for riding waves and keeping them clean is at least one thing we have in common. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's way more productive for us to work together on common goals than to focus on our differences. Even if that doesn't happen, we would both better serve our \"causes\" by doing instead of talking about doing. Agreed?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWhen you come to Cali, look me up.  We'll surf and not talk politics."], ["26707", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 26, "Guest", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T01:03:30-0400", "The Corps? &lt;Shudder..&gt;\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIf I were in charge, I'd hire two regulators for every member of the ACOE they bring in.  90 years of corps activity on the Mississippi has been an unmitigated disaster from Iowa to the Dead Zone they helped create long before the Deep Water Horizon exploded. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBring in the Seabees, at least they've got a vested interesting in protecting the Biloxi area."], ["26708", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 27, "deepsouth", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T01:32:16-0400", "peacefulpete\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            The Corps? <Shudder..>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIf I were in charge, I'd hire two regulators for every member of the ACOE they bring in.  90 years of corps activity on the Mississippi has been an unmitigated disaster from Iowa to the Dead Zone they helped create long before the Deep Water Horizon exploded.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBring in the Seabees, at least they've got a vested interesting in protecting the Biloxi area.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nPete, I agree that when the Corps has been left to create projects to justify its own existence  many problems have resulted.  However, they are the authority that lets and administers dredging contracts in public waters.  They are very good at that. They are the ones who can do the job.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThis is a rather simple concept.  Dredge up material to build a 3 or 4 foot berm along the edge of the marsh to keep the oil out.  Small inlets protected by multiple booms could be cut in the berm to allow water (but not oil) to circulate into and out of the marsh, or the same could be accomplished with subsurface \"U\" shaped pipes.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIf this had been started as soon as it was requested I  think the oil could have been kept out of the marshes.  Now the oil is washing up on beaches as far east as the Florida panhandle.  It will soon enter the bays and estuaries.  Still, neither the government nor BP is taking any real proactive measures to protect these resources.  Their attitude is to clean up the oil AFTER it has done its damage.  STUPID!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's like a crowd of people watching a woman get raped without trying to stop it and then telling her afterwards that they're real sorry she got raped."], ["26709", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 28, "PeakMaster", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T02:56:25-0400", "peacefulpete\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            PM,\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIn all seriousness, thanks for the civility. I do appreciate that politics can gets hot and passionate (but not in a good way \n and usually try to keep it out of topical discussions on the 'net. But this is an ocean-driven forum, and the ocean is hurting in a major way.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI believe the animosity we see above in this thread is fueled on both sides by a corporate media who benefits greatly from infighting and bickering amongst the voters. The status quo is acceptable only to CEO's and the top 1% of earners in this land, and the bulls&*t Lindsey Lohan-type media coverage serves mostly to distract us from serious things like the destruction of a massive ecosystem.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI'm super passionate about our oceans and their tributaries.  I spend 12-15 hours a week in the Pacific ocean now, which pales in comparison to my youth on the Gulf coast.  Given the venue, I assume our passion for riding waves and keeping them clean is at least one thing we have in common.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's way more productive for us to work together on common goals than to focus on our differences. Even if that doesn't happen, we would both better serve our \"causes\" by doing instead of talking about doing. Agreed?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWhen you come to Cali, look me up.  We'll surf and not talk politics.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nPeacefulP: Your passion for the environment, specifically the ocean is both noble and admirable as are your efforts towards protection same.  I'm no political party centric. I go with who I think will be the best. It takes an outrage like this to show that no matter what, we end with \"ass clowns\" fronting like they run our country. Bush and his group were no better with Katrina clearly worse of a disaster since there was so much human tragedy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBut this one does not seem to have an end in sight and no one taking command of the situation to even suggest that will happen. They put some Admiral in the Coast Guard in charge??...WTF??!! he will become a scapegoat in short order.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAnyway, perhaps my response was a bit heavy handed but I'm passionate about this one and furious that as each hour goes by, we get nothing but lip service and photo ops. from a President who has yet to deliver on one single campaign promise. s&*t, I wouldn't care if he delivered on none if he grew some balls and squared this disaster away. That doesn't appear to be happening any time soon.\n\n\n\n Oh and as far the ACOE goes: those are the same guys that end up working for State DOTs. The good engineers get real degrees from real schools and end up with real engineering jobs.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI can't think of a project they work on that isn't a goat fuck."], ["26710", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 29, "deepsouth", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T03:38:01-0400", "PeakMaster wrote \"Oh and as far the ACOE goes: those are the same guys that end up working  for State DOTs. The good engineers get real degrees from real schools  and end up with real engineering jobs.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI can't think of a project they work on that isn't a goat f#%k.\"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOne thing they do well is keep the channels to our ports open.  \nAs I stated above, I agree that they have done a lot of harm with other projects\n, but they do a good job of maintaining the channels that keep commerce going.  When is the last time you heard of a ship running aground \nin the channel\n because it wasn't the charted depth?  They were on the job immediately after Katrina, surveying and then clearing the channels into Gulf Coast ports so business could resume and keep people working.  No ships would enter the channels until they were certified safe for navigation and the Corps did a good job with that.  That's why I feel they would be able to do a good job protecting the Louisiana marshes by dredging up a berm.  If they had been tasked to do the proposed berm as fast as they were tasked to clear and certify the channels after Katrina I think a lot of damage would have been avoided.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIn no way am I defending them on all fronts.  Just their ability to dredge up some sand to protect our precious marshes.  One phone call from the president would have started that project within days.  Instead he goes on Larry King and says he's furious, but takes no action to protect the environment."], ["26711", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 30, "Makawaosurfer93", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T04:15:57-0400", "deepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            The day Bobby Jindal asked for a sand berm to protect the marshes the prez should have been on the phone to the general in charge of the corps of engineers and told him to get every dredge available on the job pronto.  They could have sent the bill to BP.  To this day the federal gov't hasn't taken any physical action to mitigate the effects of the spill.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe government does not have the technology or expertise to stop the leak.  They do have the technology and expertise to mitigate the effects but they have been conspicuous by their absence.  If those marshes die, so will the entire Gulf of Mexico.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt is much less important now to lay blame for the disaster that is upon us than it is to do everything possible to minimize the damage it causes.  This isn't being done by BP or the government.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's all politics and profit.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDisgusting.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe ACOE is too busy fucking up everyones beaches with replenishment to help with a priority like this.  the only way they would get involved was if there was a way to prolong their individual careers, i.e; living high on the hog at the taxpayers expense."], ["26712", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 31, "deepsouth", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T04:52:36-0400", "Makawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            The day Bobby Jindal asked for a sand berm to protect the marshes the prez should have been on the phone to the general in charge of the corps of engineers and told him to get every dredge available on the job pronto.  They could have sent the bill to BP.  To this day the federal gov't hasn't taken any physical action to mitigate the effects of the spill.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe government does not have the technology or expertise to stop the leak.  They do have the technology and expertise to mitigate the effects but they have been conspicuous by their absence.  If those marshes die, so will the entire Gulf of Mexico.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt is much less important now to lay blame for the disaster that is upon us than it is to do everything possible to minimize the damage it causes.  This isn't being done by BP or the government.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's all politics and profit.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDisgusting.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe ACOE is too busy f#%king up everyones beaches with replenishment to help with a priority like this.  the only way they would get involved was if there was a way to prolong their individual careers, i.e; living high on the hog at the taxpayers expense.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe way they would get involved is if the prez called the general in command of the corps and said do this starting right now or you're fired.  He has the power to do that, but apparently not the inclination."], ["26713", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 32, "dewey", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T05:13:16-0400", "PeakMaster\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I am a \"liberal\", a \"proqressive\" and whatever lable you riqhty ****** douch nozzles want to pin over my bleedinq heart. Fact is, Pete was dead on and in less than 3 paraqrahs summed up the whole enchalada. Derequlation and an oil based enerqy economy is total dumbf#%kery.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\"Peacefulpetes\" an idiot and so are you.You and he are both assholes now that you have chosen to align yourself with his philosophical rant. Is your surfboard made from resin? Plant resin or polyurethane resin? Jerkoff. Your car? Your house? Your computer? Get the point flea brain? And I will throw in my comments on your special President...the do nothing,ball-less,ineffective tool that he is. To call him a leader is an insult to every foot soldier in the US armed service. He has the collective resources of the entire US at his disposal to mitigate this problem and yet it continues. f#%k you both for not calling that out. He and his administration have now proven what was long suspected...simply put ineffective. losers. Man the f#%k up and call it like it is and admit he is one big mistake as a president of this country and this debacle is proof positive.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYour collective apologist attitude is yours and his... like 2 queers together but hey, explore and have fun!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFact is jerkoff, I am no more responsible for the oil leak in the Gulf then I am for the Holocaust, the bombing of Hiroshima,the Bird Flu, Lindsay Lohans behavior or the last rainfall in Wausau, Wisconsin. Yeah, and I like both my 50\" plasma TVs at both of my homes. And I like using oil based stains on my decks...so f#%k you both again.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow's that weeping for and apologizing to pelicans working out for you both? I apologized to the stones next to the pool in my backyard for pissing on them. I felt much better after I did that...and the poor weeds that I sprayed with Roundup. Goddamit.Oh wait, I have to puke.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOh, did I say f#%k You before, if not. There you go douchebags.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHahaha, Well Peak we have a long history of not liking each other much.But I have to say you are right on on every point that you made.Thank you for telling it JUST LIKE IT IS.I don't think there is anyone that likes what has happened with the spill and that it will most likely have a devastating effect for many years and I feel for everyone in the gulf this has and will change there lives forever.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey"], ["26714", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 33, "PeakMaster", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T05:50:58-0400", "dewey\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPeakMaster\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I am a \"liberal\", a \"proqressive\" and whatever lable you riqhty ****** douch nozzles want to pin over my bleedinq heart. Fact is, Pete was dead on and in less than 3 paraqrahs summed up the whole enchalada. Derequlation and an oil based enerqy economy is total dumbf#%kery.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\"Peacefulpetes\" an idiot and so are you.You and he are both assholes now that you have chosen to align yourself with his philosophical rant. Is your surfboard made from resin? Plant resin or polyurethane resin? Jerkoff. Your car? Your house? Your computer? Get the point flea brain? And I will throw in my comments on your special President...the do nothing,ball-less,ineffective tool that he is. To call him a leader is an insult to every foot soldier in the US armed service. He has the collective resources of the entire US at his disposal to mitigate this problem and yet it continues. f#%k you both for not calling that out. He and his administration have now proven what was long suspected...simply put ineffective. losers. Man the f#%k up and call it like it is and admit he is one big mistake as a president of this country and this debacle is proof positive.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYour collective apologist attitude is yours and his... like 2 queers together but hey, explore and have fun!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFact is jerkoff, I am no more responsible for the oil leak in the Gulf then I am for the Holocaust, the bombing of Hiroshima,the Bird Flu, Lindsay Lohans behavior or the last rainfall in Wausau, Wisconsin. Yeah, and I like both my 50\" plasma TVs at both of my homes. And I like using oil based stains on my decks...so f#%k you both again.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow's that weeping for and apologizing to pelicans working out for you both? I apologized to the stones next to the pool in my backyard for pissing on them. I felt much better after I did that...and the poor weeds that I sprayed with Roundup. Goddamit.Oh wait, I have to puke.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOh, did I say f#%k You before, if not. There you go douchebags.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHahaha, Well Peak we have a long history of not liking each other much.But I have to say you are right on on every point that you made.Thank you for telling it JUST LIKE IT IS.I don't think there is anyone that likes what has happened with the spill and that it will most likely have a devastating effect for many years and I feel for everyone in the gulf this has and will change there lives forever.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nDewey: Disagree,yes. Dislike: no. It is impossible for me to dislike someone I do not know.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nKTF(keep the faith):dude:"], ["26715", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 34, "dewey", "Jun 6, 2010", "2010-06-06T09:57:39-0400", "PeakMaster\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPeakMaster\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I am a \"liberal\", a \"proqressive\" and whatever lable you riqhty ****** douch nozzles want to pin over my bleedinq heart. Fact is, Pete was dead on and in less than 3 paraqrahs summed up the whole enchalada. Derequlation and an oil based enerqy economy is total dumbf#%kery.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\"Peacefulpetes\" an idiot and so are you.You and he are both assholes now that you have chosen to align yourself with his philosophical rant. Is your surfboard made from resin? Plant resin or polyurethane resin? Jerkoff. Your car? Your house? Your computer? Get the point flea brain? And I will throw in my comments on your special President...the do nothing,ball-less,ineffective tool that he is. To call him a leader is an insult to every foot soldier in the US armed service. He has the collective resources of the entire US at his disposal to mitigate this problem and yet it continues. f#%k you both for not calling that out. He and his administration have now proven what was long suspected...simply put ineffective. losers. Man the f#%k up and call it like it is and admit he is one big mistake as a president of this country and this debacle is proof positive.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYour collective apologist attitude is yours and his... like 2 queers together but hey, explore and have fun!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFact is jerkoff, I am no more responsible for the oil leak in the Gulf then I am for the Holocaust, the bombing of Hiroshima,the Bird Flu, Lindsay Lohans behavior or the last rainfall in Wausau, Wisconsin. Yeah, and I like both my 50\" plasma TVs at both of my homes. And I like using oil based stains on my decks...so f#%k you both again.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow's that weeping for and apologizing to pelicans working out for you both? I apologized to the stones next to the pool in my backyard for pissing on them. I felt much better after I did that...and the poor weeds that I sprayed with Roundup. Goddamit.Oh wait, I have to puke.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOh, did I say f#%k You before, if not. There you go douchebags.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHahaha, Well Peak we have a long history of not liking each other much.But I have to say you are right on on every point that you made.Thank you for telling it JUST LIKE IT IS.I don't think there is anyone that likes what has happened with the spill and that it will most likely have a devastating effect for many years and I feel for everyone in the gulf this has and will change there lives forever.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nDewey: Disagree,yes. Dislike: no. It is impossible for me to dislike someone I do not know.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nKTF(keep the faith):dude:\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tCOOL.......\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey"], ["26716", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 35, "Makawaosurfer93", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T00:59:44-0400", "deepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMakawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            The day Bobby Jindal asked for a sand berm to protect the marshes the prez should have been on the phone to the general in charge of the corps of engineers and told him to get every dredge available on the job pronto.  They could have sent the bill to BP.  To this day the federal gov't hasn't taken any physical action to mitigate the effects of the spill.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe government does not have the technology or expertise to stop the leak.  They do have the technology and expertise to mitigate the effects but they have been conspicuous by their absence.  If those marshes die, so will the entire Gulf of Mexico.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt is much less important now to lay blame for the disaster that is upon us than it is to do everything possible to minimize the damage it causes.  This isn't being done by BP or the government.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt's all politics and profit.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDisgusting.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe ACOE is too busy f#%king up everyones beaches with replenishment to help with a priority like this.  the only way they would get involved was if there was a way to prolong their individual careers, i.e; living high on the hog at the taxpayers expense.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe way they would get involved is if the prez called the general in command of the corps and said do this starting right now or you're fired.  He has the power to do that, but apparently not the inclination.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe experience we have here in NJ with ACOE is that they tend to bill themselves as the \"experts\" and all those with limited knowledge depend on their \"science \" to determine if a project should go through.  Like most on here that have experienced beach replenishment, the sand just goes away with a big storm, but eventually comes back.  One guy actually said \"that if we don't replenish the beaches they will not be there\".  Actually the beach will still exist, just further west. (on the east coast anyway).  Another funny thing is that they think that pumping sand onto the beaches will slow down sea level rise.  Not sure what science they are basing that on, but this is the type of BS that make them the laughing stock of coastal environmentalists.\n\n\n\nAnd not funny in the HAHa kind of way either."], ["26717", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 36, "deepsouth", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T01:47:53-0400", "Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea."], ["26718", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 37, "Makawaosurfer93", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T04:07:26-0400", "deepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tSorry, I got carried away, but yes you are correct, they do have that ability."], ["26719", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 38, "dewey", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T04:18:06-0400", "Makawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tSorry, I got carried away, but yes you are correct, they do have that ability.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nIf they have the ability why aren't they doing it???\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey"], ["26720", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 39, "PeakMaster", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T04:29:05-0400", "dewey\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMakawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tSorry, I got carried away, but yes you are correct, they do have that ability.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nIf they have the ability why aren't they doing it???\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tWell I would think that Obama could at very least, influence that. Weak leader? Non leader."], ["26721", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 40, "Makawaosurfer93", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T04:29:49-0400", "dewey\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMakawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tSorry, I got carried away, but yes you are correct, they do have that ability.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nIf they have the ability why aren't they doing it???\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nTo Deepsouth's point, our commander-in-chief hasn't ordered it, yet."], ["26722", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 41, "deepsouth", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T04:52:32-0400", "Makawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMakawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndeepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yes, their efforts are often misguided.  My point is only that they do have the ability to move sand to specific locations and in this case that seems like a pretty good idea.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tSorry, I got carried away, but yes you are correct, they do have that ability.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nIf they have the ability why aren't they doing it???\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nTo Deepsouth's point, our commander-in-chief hasn't ordered it, yet.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nEXACTLY!  All he needs to do is get on the phone to the general in charge of the corps and order him to do it.  Get started now, do the paperwork later.  Just do it.  Apparently political posturing doesn't include direct action.  \"I've been on this since day one.\"  Bu11$h!t!"], ["26723", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 42, "PeakMaster", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T05:09:46-0400", "Fact is...every surfer worth his salt on this forum and anywhere else that voted for this assclown should see the light and be intellectually honest with themselves. He, like many before him, are not the leaders they promised they would be. In fact, this asshole does not deserve any title approaching the word leader. No politics man, he is the fucking President of the Unites States of America and he cannot gain a handle on this situation? God help us when it gets worse then this and it will. The sooner he and his band of cronies and self serving d-bags are gone, Pelosi and the rest of them, the better. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nShit, Bill Clinton would have fixed this in short order and Hillary in shorter order."], ["26724", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 43, "skeeter", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T06:59:22-0400", "Nero fiddles while Rome burns \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-Suetonius"], ["26725", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 44, "SMUKES", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T09:32:01-0400", "Dude, I qotta ask - all the qay shit and \"fuck you's\" and I have 2 houses aside, what the fuck do you know? That quy pete has a phd and has worked riqht there by the riq, this shit is in deep's backyard... Literally so I'll take his word for it, what the fuck makes you qualified to qive your spleen a vent, you ever done anythinq to qive your word some cred on a thinq like this?  I looked back at that silly assed first rant of yours and you just come off like some dickhead with an axe to qrind."], ["26728", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 45, "PeakMaster", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T11:15:16-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Dude, I qotta ask - all the qay s&*t and \"f#%k you's\" and I have 2 houses aside, what the f#%k do you know? That quy pete has a phd and has worked riqht there by the riq, this s&*t is in deep's backyard... Literally so I'll take his word for it, what the f#%k makes you qualified to qive your spleen a vent, you ever done anythinq to qive your word some cred on a thinq like this? I looked back at that silly assed first rant of yours and you just come off like some dickhead with an axe to qrind.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tYeah but hey, I'm just tryin' to keep it funky."], ["26729", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 46, "longboardmaster", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T13:43:24-0400", "Not to belabor the point, but these shots are sad.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html"], ["26730", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 47, "slosurf", "Jun 7, 2010", "2010-06-07T13:59:55-0400", "longboardmaster\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Not to belabor the point, but these shots are sad.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tTragic."], ["26731", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 48, "surflugen", "Jun 8, 2010", "2010-06-08T05:10:25-0400", "http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-flow-of-bullshit-continues-to-gush-from-bp,17564/?ref=d\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nNot funny but right on the money. This is on my mind everyday my heart aches for all of the gulf coast. I (actually) pray for all the effected to find some relief soon."], ["26735", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 49, "deepsouth", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-08T22:45:44-0400", "This says it all\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["26739", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 50, "Guest", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T00:58:48-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            That quy pete...\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tI need to clear the record as we move past this and into kinder discussions: an ecology BS and a few grad classes studying marshes, mangroves, and fish doesn't make me an expert, just well-informed. I moved on to a different area of science and away from the Gulf Coast long ago."], ["26741", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 51, "skeeter", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T04:33:33-0400", "day 50 of the gulf oil spill. this particular oil plume is more than 15 miles long, 5 miles wide and some 300 feet thick at depths ranging from 2,300 feet to 4,200 feet. wonder how much clean up costs will be and who's gonna pay.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["26742", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 52, "SMUKES", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T06:57:18-0400", "I stand corrected Pete."], ["26745", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 53, "BillyBob", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T07:23:03-0400", "skeeter\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            wonder how much clean up costs will be and who's gonna pay.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nWho's gonna pay?  Who's gonna pay?...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWE\n are \nALL\n gonna pay.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nJust like we paid for Fannie Mae, AIG, CitiBank, GM, etc., etc."], ["26746", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 54, "deepsouth", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T08:06:24-0400", "Even though they are privately owned, there aren't many people around here going to BP gas stations.  I think this may be the end for BP in the US.  They are to be fined on the number of barrels of oil spilled, and it will amount to many billions of dollars.  Add to that the cleanup costs and the compenstaion claims against them and I think they are done here."], ["26747", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 55, "kiwi", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T08:47:01-0400", "BillyBob\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nskeeter\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            wonder how much clean up costs will be and who's gonna pay.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nWho's gonna pay?  Who's gonna pay?...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWE\n are \nALL\n gonna pay.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nJust like we paid for Fannie Mae, AIG, CitiBank, GM, etc., etc.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\t Jacque Cousteau predicted this many years ago. His son predict's that the oil will reach Britain/Europe. The whole world will pay in one way or another."], ["26748", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 56, "nedsurf", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T12:57:05-0400", "On the boycott - it's my understanding that there are somewhere around 30,000 BP employees in the US. Who are we really hurting with a boycott?"], ["26749", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 57, "SMUKES", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T12:59:20-0400", "BP. Next question."], ["26750", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 58, "deepsouth", "Jun 9, 2010", "2010-06-09T14:16:08-0400", "They are just more victims of BP's lack of regard for everyone on the Gulf Coast.  BP has destroyed its brand and anyone who loses because of that should sue BP.  They have an obligation to their franchisees to protect the brand and they have not done that."], ["26755", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 59, "g-coast", "Jun 10, 2010", "2010-06-10T08:20:55-0400", "That spill will end up in Texas sooner than later.  It's sooooooo depressing\n.  What a freakin nitemare:X"], ["26757", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 60, "Makawaosurfer93", "Jun 10, 2010", "2010-06-10T10:13:40-0400", "g-coast\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            That spill will end up in Texas sooner than later.  It's sooooooo depressing\n.  What a freakin nitemare:X\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI was wondering about that.  No one has mentioned that it has hit TX beaches yet, or have I missed it?  Is therea normal (littoral) flow that goes east rather than west?  I know that when the cat 2s and stronger start cranking up,it will push it that way.\n\n\n\nJust curious about the typical flow."], ["26761", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 61, "aloof", "Jun 10, 2010", "2010-06-10T14:27:06-0400", "I used to get tar all over my board, baggies, and skin in sixties and it was major cleanup after a d'surf."], ["26764", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 62, "g-coast", "Jun 11, 2010", "2010-06-11T01:02:17-0400", "Makawaosurfer93\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            No one has mentioned that it has hit TX beaches yet, or have I missed it?  Is therea normal (littoral) flow that goes east rather than west?  I know that when the cat 2s and stronger start cranking up,it will push it that way.\n\n\n\nJust curious about the typical flow.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tI'm stymied as to why the stuff hasn't been pushed over to TX also.  Typically, I thought, that the Mississippi River flows towards the TX coast and away from FLA.  That's why, I thought, that the FLA panhandle has such blue water,,,and us, here, have more brown and green water.  Might just be the winds that are controlling the flow,,,I really don't have a clue anymore.  Any experts out there have some knowledge as to why this stuff isn't headed for TX?  Yet?"], ["26765", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 63, "nedsurf", "Jun 11, 2010", "2010-06-11T01:29:41-0400", "Dude! Nobody wants to go to Texas this time of year."], ["26766", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 64, "deepsouth", "Jun 11, 2010", "2010-06-11T02:39:59-0400", "nedsurf\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Dude! Nobody wants to go to Texas this time of year.\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI beg to differ.  Considering what's happening in Alabama and the Florida Panhandle, I'd be pretty happy to hit some Texas surf."], ["26782", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 65, "slosurf", "Jun 11, 2010", "2010-06-11T13:29:59-0400", "http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/scenes_from_the_gulf_of_mexico.html"], ["26786", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 66, "aloof", "Jun 12, 2010", "2010-06-12T03:04:28-0400", "Pants on the ground."], ["26787", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 67, "SMUKES", "Jun 12, 2010", "2010-06-12T11:22:03-0400", "http://www.UCBComedy.com/"], ["26788", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 68, "dewey", "Jun 12, 2010", "2010-06-12T12:06:04-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://www.UCBComedy.com/\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI don't know Smukes some how I just don't find that very funny.Maybe it's just me but NOT FUNNY...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey"], ["26789", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 69, "aloof", "Jun 12, 2010", "2010-06-12T14:20:32-0400", "That's just not very funny, Smukes."], ["26790", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 70, "SMUKES", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T02:17:45-0400", "Are you wathinq what I watched, the bit in the bp board room, with the paper towell and the pinq ponq ball. Um, how is that not funny... Unless you work for bp I suppose. I couldn't post a specific link, did they put up somethinq offensive or is it off limits to lauqh at what is possibly the worst case of corperate misqovernance in modern history?"], ["26791", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 71, "deepsouth", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T03:34:05-0400", "Oil is now washing up on Mississippi's barrier islands.  It has been hitting Alabama and Florida beaches for about a week or so.  And it keeps on gushing.  :X"], ["26792", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 72, "dewey", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T04:38:04-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Are you wathinq what I watched, the bit in the bp board room, with the paper towell and the pinq ponq ball. Um, how is that not funny... Unless you work for bp I suppose. I couldn't post a specific link, did they put up somethinq offensive or is it off limits to lauqh at what is possibly the worst case of corperate misqovernance in modern history?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nStill not funny Smukes read deepsouths post after your last post.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nOh and no I don't work for BP."], ["26793", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 73, "SMUKES", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T06:04:25-0400", "http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/1963592\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe sketch was clearly shining a big bright light on British Petroleum's ineptitude and was to me... to me, FUNNY. That's what comedy is supposed to do guys. By exclaiming \"that's not funny\" you're really saying, \" you have no right to get involved in such serious matters with your pithy little clips.\" I call bullshit. Further, your statements imply an earnestness on your part that I do not share and again, I call bullshit."], ["26794", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 74, "deepsouth", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T07:29:34-0400", "I just watched the video.  It didn't make fun of dead wildlife or a destroyed environment or people who are losing their livelihood.  It made fun of the idiots who didn't have a plan and couldn't formulate one.  I don't know if we need that video to show us how stupid and insensitive the people responsible are; that's pretty obvious to anyone who reads the paper or watches the news.  I would give Smukes a pass on this one."], ["26795", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 75, "nedsurf", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T08:00:38-0400", "Smukes - no issue with your posting this whatsoever, humor is in the eye of the beholder. I would depart from your analysis in that I saw this as a statement (albeit unintended) on the handling of the situation by all \"official\" parties involved, not just BP. Biggest cluster F I've seen, and I've seen lots of them over the years. I fear the long term effects of this will make Katrina look like a summer breeze in comparison."], ["26796", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 76, "Roy Stewart", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T09:14:24-0400", "There's evidence which suggests that it was done deliberately and that a big bank was  involved as well.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe bilderberg group is chock full of BP people, all these big businesses and the government are the same group, and they all knew that it was going to happen, as they planned it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n."], ["26797", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 77, "deepsouth", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T10:13:11-0400", "Roy, I respectfully disagree with you on that.  First, the people who actually took the physical action that caused the explosion died as a result.  Not likely they would sacrifice themselves so some fat cat could make money off it.  Second, BP stock has lost half its value and they are not going to pay a scheduled dividend.  Nobody is making money in this.  Third, they are spending tens of millions of dollars every day on this, approaching the company's entire worldwide daily revenue.  Again, not making money on this.  Also, Bilderberg was AFTER the explosion on April 20, so it's impossible for the people at Bilderberg to know it's GOING to happen if it has already happened.  Plus, I am not buying any BP or Amoco (BP owns Amoco) gas, so that has to really hurt!"], ["26798", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 78, "kiwi", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T10:50:59-0400", "deepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Plus, I am not buying any BP or Amoco (BP owns Amoco) gas, so that has to really hurt!\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nBut who are you hurting? America owns 39% of BP, wouldn't the Petrol Station's where you buy your fuel be locally owned by American's too and the guy's who truck the fuel and process it, etc etc. Buy boycotting BP aren't you just hurting yourselve's. Less profit for BP means less money to help clean up the mess aswell.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHow are my apostophes DP, all Ok?"], ["26799", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 79, "deepsouth", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T11:43:38-0400", "Kiwi, here's my take on your comments.  First, I don't care what country the owners (shareholders) live in.  (I'm not angry with the British people or government, just the company that has brought this upon us and the US Government for not being proactive in mitigating the effects of the spill.)  If they decide to invest in a company that is willing to rape the environment, then they can lose money when the rape occurs and justice is demanded.  Investment is a gamble.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  Second, the gas stations are independently owned by local people who buy a franchise so they can use the brand.  BP, by their actions, has destroyed the brand that those people have paid to use.  The franchisees should sue BP for not holding up their end of the contract and causing Joe Gas Station Owner to lose money.  I refuse to put as much as a single penny in BP's coffers if I can avoid it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nIt gets worse.  In this country, stations of many different brands get their gas from the same refinery. They just put their brand's additives in the tank and slap their name on it.  It's  all very incestuous, don't you think?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nNow about those apostrophes.  It is improper to use an apostrophe to form the plural of a noun.  Petrol Station's would properly be petrol stations.  The same for the other instances where you've used an apostrophe to form the plural (American's, guy's, yourselve's).\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nApostrophes are normally used in a contraction like \"don't\" to show that a letter is missing (don't = do not) or to show possession as in \"the dude's head split open when the board hit it\".  Go ahead and use all the punctuation you want, any way you please.  That part of it is all in good fun.  But I'm serious about hoping BP loses big time to serve as an example to others who may consider doing the same thing and think there won't be consequences."], ["26800", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 80, "nedsurf", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T12:14:51-0400", "DS - with all due respect it's easy to say sue the bastards and get paid for BP's lack of living up to a contract. It is quite another to be the guy who suffers while his business goes to sh&t, and waits for years for litigation to wind it's way through the courts. It's my understanding that there are 10's of thousands (note appropriate use of the apostrophe\n) of US franchise owners, licensees, employees, etc. that are victims of this when/if BP folds up their tent or reduces business in the US. I don't have an answer here but there are unintended consequences of actions, and I certainly  wouldn't want to be the poor guy that gets stuck holding BP's bag. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nInvestors are not just individual rich guys but many retirement funds and other institutions, maybe the one paying your retirement or holding your life insurance or a mutual fund that you have in your IRA. Same goes here for collateral damage.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nLike I said earlier, biggest CF I've ever been witness to."], ["26801", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 81, "deepsouth", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T12:36:06-0400", "Nedsurf, BP will probably file Chapter 11 due to the losses incurred in this mess.  They will again screw the people to whom they owe money.  The company leadership doesn't have any morals (some would say that applies to all big corporations) and is running the company and its formerly good name into the mud with its daily lies and maneuvering to avoid responsibility.  To me, the station owners, pensioners, etc. are just more victims of BP's profit at any cost attitude.  I'm sorry for them, just as I am for all the others who will lose their livelihood because of this.  But I WILL NOT patronize that brand ever again and I hope millions of other people feel the same way.  People make choices every day regarding how they spend their money.  If one feels strongly about pollution, one will probably try to avoid supporting companies that have records of environmental irresponsibility without considering the workers who lose their jobs as a result.  Many people on this board are all for boycotting Asian made popouts without regard for the human suffering that will result.  I chose to boycott BP.  Period."], ["26802", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 82, "dewey", "Jun 13, 2010", "2010-06-13T13:36:02-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/1963592\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe sketch was clearly shining a big bright light on British Petroleum's ineptitude and was to me... to me, FUNNY. That's what comedy is supposed to do guys. By exclaiming \"that's not funny\" you're really saying, \" you have no right to get involved in such serious matters with your pithy little clips.\" I call bulls&*t. Further, your statements imply an earnestness on your part that I do not share and again, I call bulls&*t.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nYou can call it what ever the fu%k you want.All I said is I don't find it funny.Never said or implied you have no right to get involved in anything.Again I don't think its funny IMO.You can think whatever you want.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\ndewey"], ["26803", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 83, "g-coast", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T03:08:03-0400", "What is it,,,,,Day 55?  Coming up on 2 months?  Geezus"], ["26804", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 84, "deepsouth", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T03:20:02-0400", "Today it's reported that people in Mobile Bay are bringing up thick oil on their anchors, even though there is only a sheen on the surface.  It appears the the oil that was kept under the surface with dispersant is now moving along the bottom into the bays and estuaries, out of sight just like BP wanted it.  I'm really starting to get pi$$ed off about this.  They may actually succeed in killing the entire Gulf of Mexico."], ["26805", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 85, "g-coast", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T03:34:57-0400", "There is a LOW that has formed in the Tropics.  Great\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nUploaded with \nImageShack.us"], ["26806", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 86, "BillyBob", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T04:16:49-0400", "deepsouth\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            It appears the the oil that was kept under the surface with dispersant is now moving along the bottom into the bays and estuaries, out of sight just like BP wanted it.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tI'm no expert, but I always thought that was kinda weird that you would put dispersants into oil gushing 5000 feet below.  Wouldn't that just disperse the oil over a much larger area at droplets that are too small to collect???\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nNewsweek has had some good articles on this issue.  It's likely now that the plume below the surface will kill a good portion of sea life in the gulf.  It could be a dead zone for decades.  Any remaining sea life will be contaminated with oil that was ingested within the food chain.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSo, BP tally to date:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nkill majority of sea life in gulf\n\n\n\n\nput the gulf fishery out of business \n\n\n\n\ntourism will be shot to hell (unless you visit to witness the devastation)\n\n\n\n\nthe gulf oil industry is on moratorium\n\n\n\n\nthe oil will likely escape the gulf and contaminate the Atlantic\n\n\n\n\nthe oil will eventually contaminate Europe\n\n\n\n\nhurricane season will drive the oil inland and add decon duties for FEMA\n\n\n\n\nsurfers will be covered in gunk after each session\n\n\ndid we miss anyone?  Anyone??\n\n\n\n\nG-string - better refrain from peeing in your wetsuit from now on; we don't know what happens when you add urine with that methane-oil mix...:shock:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nCoWaBunGA"], ["26807", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 87, "deepsouth", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T04:46:15-0400", "I am getting the feeling that we are at about the same stage in this that we were just before Katrina suddenly blew up into a Cat 5.  The next few weeks should be very interesting.  If there's a lot of this stuff moving on the bottom (as it appears to be doing) it could kill everything and be a very long time before it goes away.  This could go through the entire US economy like a tsunami.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThanks, BP.  I hope you saved a lot of money with your shortcuts and ignorance of standard drilling practices, you rotton SOBs."], ["26808", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 88, "g-coast", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T05:02:18-0400", "BillyBob\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            G-string - better refrain from peeing in your wetsuit from now on; we don't know what happens when you add urine with that methane-oil mix...:shock:\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tJust the opposite WilliamRobert, my piss is an oil dispersant"], ["26809", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 89, "Saltydog", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T05:50:07-0400", "Put down the bottle Peak."], ["26810", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 90, "Saltydog", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T05:56:36-0400", "Siiiiing it to the Choir, Pete!"], ["26811", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 91, "gcs", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T06:16:13-0400", "Roy Stewart\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            There's evidence which suggests that it was done deliberately and that a big bank was  involved as well.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe bilderberg group is chock full of BP people, all these big businesses and the government are the same group, and they all knew that it was going to happen, as they planned it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tshut up"], ["26812", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 92, "BillyBob", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T06:28:00-0400", "g-coast\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBillyBob\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            G-string - better refrain from peeing in your wetsuit from now on; we don't know what happens when you add urine with that methane-oil mix...:shock:\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tJust the opposite WilliamRobert, my piss is an oil dispersant\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWell, hell - you better git out there and pee away, there's a plenty to disperse!!!"], ["26813", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 93, "SuperKool", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T06:34:01-0400", "gcs\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nRoy Stewart\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            There's evidence which suggests that it was done deliberately and that a big bank was  involved as well.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe bilderberg group is chock full of BP people, all these big businesses and the government are the same group, and they all knew that it was going to happen, as they planned it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tshut up\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tWhat have you been reading lately, Roy?  I think this proves that BP, bankers, and the government aren't in control of a damn thing (other than their own salaries) and don't plan for even the most obvious of contingencies."], ["26814", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 94, "slosurf", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T07:32:26-0400", "So, BP tally to date:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nkill majority of sea life in gulf \n\n\n\n\nput the gulf fishery out of business \n\n\n\n\ntourism will be shot to hell (unless you visit to witness the devastation) \n\n\n\n\nthe gulf oil industry is on moratorium \n\n\n\n\nthe oil will likely escape the gulf and contaminate the Atlantic \n\n\n\n\nthe oil will eventually contaminate Europe \n\n\n\n\nhurricane season will drive the oil inland and add decon duties for FEMA \n\n\n\n\nsurfers will be covered in gunk after each session \n\n\n\n\ndid we miss anyone?  Anyone??\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tI guess Surfrider Foundation was right all along."], ["26815", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 95, "PeakMaster", "Jun 14, 2010", "2010-06-14T10:50:46-0400", "Saltydog\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Put down the bottle Peak.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nSorry Sd...On this one, to me, it's a given that BP are corporate criminals and their D&O insurance should not be able to cover this f#%kup. HOWEVER, where BP....the knuckleheaded,assclown,Keystone cops outfit that they are proving themselves to be  daily...Obama as the leader of the most powerful country in the free world has done nothing, zero,zed,goose egg...to manage this environmental nightmare in any way. When industry fails as it has here, we have to look to government to lead the way. Well all that \"hope and change\" has done nothing for us.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI guess the speech tomorrow night will serve to make us all feel a lot better...as penguins fry in the sun with their new coat of oil. Yeah, I'll say it again. Obama is an asshole and an oil company croney as much, maybe more then Bush.f#%k him and his do nothing administration. This is an outrage. The only benefit is that it will destin him to be a one term loser....thank God for that but at what price?Oh and by the way, Smukes, you have the IQ of a domestic pet and the attention span a of gnat. Be careful crossing the street and breathing at the same time. It will tax your system with potentially fatal results."], ["26817", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 96, "Saltydog", "Jun 15, 2010", "2010-06-15T03:55:40-0400", "Peak, I have to admit, I wish the Democrats would grow some stone, kick BP's ass and just SHUT IT DOWN!!! From what I'm reading & hearing, it all boils down to the almighty bottom line $ \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nam saddend by what may become us.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n."], ["26818", "330", "OIL ON THE BEACH", 97, "deepsouth", "Jun 15, 2010", "2010-06-15T06:01:03-0400", "Orange Beach, Alabama\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. 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